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Old 09-08-2019, 03:24 PM  
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Evaluate the Defense Game #1
I thought they looked improved from several aspects. Keep in mind this was Jax and not a high-powered offense.

Tackling = Much, MUCH better

Coverage = Tighter. Few plays without a defender right on the WR

Run Defense = Stellar start, let's not get cocky

Pass Defense = Not a ton of pressure today. Missed a huge sack which ended up leading to a TD. Coverage overall was decent. Made a backup look all-world but that happens when a backup comes in mid-game.

Overall it looked like we were more sound fundamentally. Run gaps were getting filled, screens were getting blown up and not a ton of YAC. Hopefully as the season progresses our defense will as well.

Overall grade today: C+
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Old 09-09-2019, 09:07 AM   #136
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Old 09-09-2019, 09:08 AM   #137
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They weren't great, but against that front, they were good.

You're gonna give up hits and pressures against that front 4. It's loaded.
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Old 09-09-2019, 09:15 AM   #138
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The Chiefs had one sack to the Jaguars zero.

As per ESPN, the Jags had 4 QB hits compared to 3 for the Chiefs.

Not sure about the pressures.

The Jaguars have a very good Dline and really not sure they had much more passrush yesterday than the Chiefs. Sure, the Chiefs were playing backup tackles but then the Jaguars were playing at home.

Again, I wouldn't be concerned about the passrush.

It wasn't good but it's one game.

The pass coverage is another story and yes Ward was very poor.
Some of those hit were taken on RPO's
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Some may gloss over it, but DJ is right here.

With what they gave up and paid for Clark, they need a lot more than that.
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Old 09-09-2019, 09:26 AM   #140
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I'm going to add this, Nick Jacobs does not like LDT at all, he thinks Erving should play over him.
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Old 09-09-2019, 09:30 AM   #141
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The Chiefs had one sack to the Jaguars zero.

As per ESPN, the Jags had 4 QB hits compared to 3 for the Chiefs.

Not sure about the pressures.

The Jaguars have a very good Dline and really not sure they had much more passrush yesterday than the Chiefs. Sure, the Chiefs were playing backup tackles but then the Jaguars were playing at home.

Again, I wouldn't be concerned about the passrush.

It wasn't good but it's one game.

The pass coverage is another story and yes Ward was very poor.
Also, how many holding penalties did the Jags have against the Chiefs D? Maybe the D only got one sack, and 3 pressures, but I seem to remember a few holding penalties as well.
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I'm going to add this, Nick Jacobs does not like LDT at all, he thinks Erving should play over him.
I know...IMO, Erving was right where he belongs yesterday.
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I'm going to add this, Nick Jacobs does not like LDT at all, he thinks Erving should play over him.
The best way to decide if I'm frustrated by that play wasn't to look at LDT and guess what he should do.

It's to look at Schwartz and see what a truly savvy player was prepared to do.

Schwartz was ready for the switch; you could see he passed the DE off and was looking to pick up the G on the twist. LDT simply got locked in and didn't feel for it. He didn't use his help.

At first blush I didn't think that was really LDT's fault, just a good move from the DE. But when you see how a genuinely excellent OL right next to him handled that play, you kinda see exactly how that team OL concept was supposed to work and where/why it failed.

I'm an LDT fan but Jacobs is right here, IMO - that needed to be handled better. You just can't get your QB blasted as he's stepping up like that.
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Old 09-09-2019, 09:33 AM   #144
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Also, how many holding penalties did the Jags have against the Chiefs D? Maybe the D only got one sack, and 3 pressures, but I seem to remember a few holding penalties as well.
I recall 3; at least 2 of them on runs (maybe all 3).

This is the kind of 'justifying' I'm talking about. No, random holding penalties on run plays doesn't paper over a mostly ineffective pass-rush.

We need to see improvement there. I'm not saying it can't come or that it won't, but it was absolutely a problem yesterday. Especially against a bad OL.
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Good luck to most other teams doing this bc it’s different when LDT is blocking Calais Campbell.

Chiefs OL had trouble and that is to be expected.

Jags have a top 5 pass rush up front. Very few teams can do what they do.
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Also, how many holding penalties did the Jags have against the Chiefs D? Maybe the D only got one sack, and 3 pressures, but I seem to remember a few holding penalties as well.
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There were 5 offensive holding penalties against the Jags yesterday, 4 of them came on run plays and the 5th on that hail mary drive at the end of the 1st half that didn't mean anything. No, the pass rush did nothing to force penalties either.

It was bad, people. If what you saw yesterday was even bordering on an acceptable performance from our pass rush, with our new shiny DE and a DT that many would pay at Fletcher Cox levels (not to mention a decent contract to Okafor and a 2nd round pick on the other end in K-Pass), then you're just seeing what you want to see.

It was not okay by any reasonable scale. Don't just say it was fine because you really wanted it to be. It wasn't - that was a piss-poor performance from our pass rush.
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In that heat, I thought they did fine. The TD pass by Foles was perfectly covered. Just have to tip your hat.
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To confirm:

There were 5 offensive holding penalties against the Jags yesterday, 4 of them came on run plays and the 5th on that hail mary drive at the end of the 1st half that didn't mean anything. No, the pass rush did nothing to force penalties either.

It was bad, people. If what you saw yesterday was even bordering on an acceptable performance from our pass rush, with our new shiny DE and a DT that many would pay at Fletcher Cox levels (not to mention a decent contract to Okafor and a 2nd round pick on the other end in K-Pass), then you're just seeing what you want to see.

It was not okay by any reasonable scale. Don't just say it was fine because you really wanted it to be. It wasn't - that was a piss-poor performance from our pass rush.
Yea - I missed that.
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