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Old 03-03-2020, 11:09 AM   #1
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He already turned down a 100m contract my man. He's way too expensive for what he brings. You hamstring your team when you allocate that much cap space for two defensive players in Jones and Clark.
Link to this $100M contract offer.

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Old 03-02-2020, 05:08 PM   #2
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I don't think we "have" to but I do think we'll be much better off if we do. This is a draft where you really want to have two late #1 picks if you don't need a QB or tackle.

There is so much value in WR and ILB in this draft. An extra 1st and 3rd or better would be huge for our team moving forward.
Lol I love how you talk about it as if we’re not losing much or anything at all.
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Old 03-02-2020, 05:42 PM   #3
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Lol I love how you talk about it as if we’re not losing much or anything at all.
No one said anything like that wtf
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Old 03-02-2020, 05:56 PM   #4
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No one said anything like that wtf
When you talk about trading Jones and filling needs at LB and CB without acknowledging that interior pass rush jumps into our top 3 needs the second that trade is made, it certainly seems that way.

If you trade Jones for a 1st and a pick next year, it doesn’t make it any easier to fill needs through the draft this year because even though you added a pick you likely are taking a guy like Blacklock or Gallimore with one of your 1st rounders.
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Old 03-02-2020, 06:25 PM   #5
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There is so much value in ILB in this draft.
Uh I don't think so. There are a couple/few maybe but that is it. Most of the LB in this draft are coverage LB, not 3 down MLB in a 4-3 type.
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Old 03-02-2020, 07:23 PM   #6
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Uh I don't think so. There are a couple/few maybe but that is it. Most of the LB in this draft are coverage LB, not 3 down MLB in a 4-3 type.
Murray, Queen, Gay, Wilson, Brooks, etc. can all play MLB.

It’s a very good LB class.
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Old 03-02-2020, 08:14 PM   #7
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Murray, Queen, Gay, Wilson, Brooks, etc. can all play MLB.

It’s a very good LB class.
Queen is definitely too light for MLB at 227 lbs. Gay is not listed as a MLB/ILB. He is listed as an OLB by most draft sites but he has the size to play MLB.
IMO and based off what I have seen by others we have:
1st round Murray after that you get into players like Brooks, Harrison, Jennings, Woodward and Wilson that can all go from the 2cd to the 6th. I can see where someone might want to call it a deep class, but it is not a deep class that are good.
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Old 03-02-2020, 08:21 PM   #8
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Queen is definitely too light for MLB at 227 lbs. Gay is not listed as a MLB/ILB. He is listed as an OLB by most draft sites but he has the size to play MLB.
IMO and based off what I have seen by others we have:
1st round Murray after that you get into players like Brooks, Harrison, Jennings, Woodward and Wilson that can all go from the 2cd to the 6th. I can see where someone might want to call it a deep class, but it is not a deep class that are good.
Queen might not be a 4-3 MLB , but he’s a ILB in a 3-4 which is why I listed him. It’s a good class whether you want to believe it or not. I mean just compare it to the last few and you could see that.

Also, Baun and Uche are guys that can play ILB.

I think you’re getting to caught up on him saying “ILB”. He’s clearly talking about 3 down off the ball LB’s. Technically even a guy like Queen would be playing ILB for us in sub packages. He wasn’t only talking about guys that are 4-3 base MLB’s.
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Old 03-02-2020, 05:49 PM   #9
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The cap will go up each year. An extra game and playoff game means more revenue. We have the space to sign Jones
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Old 03-02-2020, 06:00 PM   #10
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i’d rather keep him over frank clark. but unfortunately we’re stuck with clark and jones has to go.

watkins and jones basically have to go. go crunch the numbers all you want.
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i’d rather keep him over frank clark. but unfortunately we’re stuck with clark and jones has to go.

watkins and jones basically have to go. go crunch the numbers all you want.
Lol people have done just that and proven you can keep Jones.
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i’d rather keep him over frank clark. but unfortunately we’re stuck with clark and jones has to go.

watkins and jones basically have to go. go crunch the numbers all you want.
Yea it sucks being stuck with the guy that had the most QB pressures and sacks in the NFL the last half of the season and playoffs.
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Yea it sucks being stuck with the guy that, when he finally got healthier, had the most QB pressures and sacks in the NFL the last half of the season and playoffs.

FYP even further... Clark closed out all playoff games with a sack...
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Jones and Clark helped a secondary group filled with castoffs and no names to being a very good units. The defense was hot dog shit without him on the field.
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