Listen, people. We need to have a talk about a Chiefs name change at some point.

[Rain Man]

I think the odds are low of a name change, but given the current state of affairs it's a non-zero possibility. And if we don't have input, the name will end up being some trite adjective in front of the word Hawks, which has happened with pretty much every other sports name change in America. Green Hawks, Fighting Hawks, Screeching Hawks, whatever. We don't want that.

I suspect that some members of Chiefs management read this site occasionally to get our takes on who should be starting at left guard or how they should handle a particular contract, so this is our chance to have input into the process. (Oh, and hi, Clark. Nice work last year, my friend. PM me about getting together for dinner next time you're in Denver.)

So we'll have a renaming tournament. In this thread, you may propose up to three names, and I'll structure everyone's suggestions into heats. Using the Chiefsplanet brain trust, we'll give Clark and his team valuable input into what the Chiefs should become if we eventually delete our homage to indigenous plains cultures.

[CarlosCarson27]

yeah... Chiefs is really offensive...? why in the hell would they even need to change it? based on what?

nothing.
Just another step in erasing native history. It doesnt have shit to do with it being offensive..which its not in the first place.

[displacedinMN]

The Kansas City Missourians.

So no one forgets the team is in Missouri. Sorry Kansans.

[Shields68]

Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88

yeah... Chiefs is really offensive...? why in the hell would they even need to change it? based on what?

nothing.
Just another step in erasing native history. It doesnt have shit to do with it being offensive..which its not in the first place.

you can make the argument that "Redskins" is a offensive name and was a racial slur at one point. If the name Chiefs becomes offensive you might as well do away with mascot names and go with The Kansas City football team.

[saturnknts]

The Kansas City Tinmen
Motto: "We don't need a ****ing heart" or "We have more heart than you..."
After touchdowns could sing "We're gonna RIP the heart out of you, you, you you you"

The Kansas City Arrowheads
Surely this isn't offensive?

The Kansas City Missourians
"Dammit, we're in Missouri not Kansas"

The Kansas City Flying Monkeys
"They're always hanging around"

[displacedinMN]

Other than Ermines- The only other name I could get behind is Tornadoes or Twisters.

[saturnknts]

Originally Posted by Shields68

you can make the argument that "Redskins" is a offensive name and was a racial slur at one point. If the name Chiefs becomes offensive you might as well do away with mascot names and go with The Kansas City football team.

Kansas City Football Club - would drive soccer fans crazy. And I love soccer.

[Jewish Rabbi]

The Kansas City Eracists. Helping erase racism all over our country one skull****ed opponent at a time.

[Pablo]

Kansas City Indigenous Plains People

[lcarus]

I hope they never change the name but if they do I always thought the Kansas City Knights would be ok. Lots of cool logo potential. It's kind of arena football-ish. I'm sure there are better...and worse ideas out there.

[CarlosCarson27]

Originally Posted by Shields68

you can make the argument that "Redskins" is a offensive name and was a racial slur at one point. If the name Chiefs becomes offensive you might as well do away with mascot names and go with The Kansas City football team.

which there is no documented history of anywhere. Ive seen sports forums debate this stupid shit for 10 years. Its all invented for separation. like every other race bait argument.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...c62_story.html

Aug. 22, 1812: At a Washington reception for several Native Americans, President James Madison refers to Indians as “red people” or “my red children,” prompting Little Osage Chief Sans Oreilles (No Ears) to voice his support for the administration: “I know the manners of the whites and the red skins.” Then, Sioux Chief French Crow also pledged loyalty: “I am a red-skin,but what I say is the truth, and notwithstanding I came a long way I am content, but wish to return from here.”

I shall be pleased to have you come to speak to me yourself if you pity our women and our children; and, if any redskins do you harm, I shall be able to look out for you even at the peril of my life,” Chief Mosquito said in his letter, according to a 2005 study by Ives Goddard, the Smithsonian Institution’s senior linguist emeritus.

July 20, 1815: After tangling with famed explorer-turned-Missouri Territory Gov. William Clark, Meskwaki Chief Black Thunder gives a speech that was printed in the Western Journal in St. Louis. “I turn to all,” the chief is reported as saying, “red skins and white skins, and challenge an accusation against me.”

Sept. 25, 1863: The Winona Daily Republican in Minnesota features an announcement that uses the term “redskin” as a pejorative: “The State reward for dead Indians has been increased to $200 for every red-skin sent to Purgatory. This sum is more than the dead bodies of all the Indians east of the Red River are worth.”

its pretty much like getting upset at the term "reerun... you can turn any term negative if you want.

indians used the term on themselves.
go back to calling themselves the Braves, I wouldnt mind that. But a drastic change to please pc propaganda? **** that

[CarlosCarson27]

google-
Before the Indian Removal Act (1830) there were seven tribes in Missouri:

The Chickasaw tribe.
The Illini tribe.
The Ioway tribe.
The Otoe tribe.
The Missouria tribe.
The Osage tribe.
The Quapaw tribe.
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i will only accept a change to one of these names

[Chief Pagan]

Kansas City Becuase Chufs

[CarlosCarson27]

http://www.ala.org/aboutala/indigeno...-washington-dc


On the Washington Football Team’s website, the organization stood by its usage of the name and mascot stating, “the image of ‘Chief Two Guns White Calf’ was most admired [and that is how the logo officially became the brand we know today]. The likeness is not of a mascot, but rather a logo based after a real person out of respect for the Native American.” Conversations about the use of American Indian imagery or culture continues to be debated today. There are professional teams, college teams, and schools that are implementing rules to abolish these mascots.

[scho63]

Chiefs is not racist.

Scalpers or Drunken Injuns or Redskins is......

[redfan]

The Kansas City Rainmen, bringin' the thunder