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Old 03-27-2022, 09:09 AM  
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Why isn't this kid being talked about? Injury of course but man when healthy he looks like an explosive receiver who can catch anything thrown his way. Would love to have him but I'm honestly not sure where he should go.
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Old 04-26-2022, 11:05 AM   #136
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It's a huge concern for me. Others on here say he plays faster than he tests. But the tape on him still looks slow to me. He works in RPO situations though.
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Old 04-26-2022, 11:14 AM   #137
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Those measurables on Bolton is why I've always found analytics to be useless garbage.
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Old 04-26-2022, 11:15 AM   #138
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Why do people put any credence into RAS scores?

Top 10 Chiefs in terms of RAS scores include the following players:
Brian Johnston (DE) perfect 10
William Bartee (CB) perfect 10
Brad Cottom (TE) 9.5
Omar Easy (FB) 10.0
Fujita (LB) 9.96
Jeff Webb (WR) 9.9
Chris Conley (WR) 9.68
Mike Capatano (DE) 9.81
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Old 04-26-2022, 11:22 AM   #139
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Why do people put any credence into RAS scores?

Top 10 Chiefs in terms of RAS scores include the following players:
Brian Johnston (DE) perfect 10
William Bartee (CB) perfect 10
Brad Cottom (TE) 9.5
Omar Easy (FB) 10.0
Fujita (LB) 9.96
Jeff Webb (WR) 9.9
Chris Conley (WR) 9.68
Mike Capatano (DE) 9.81
Exactly. It’s just a tool, not the gospel.
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Old 04-26-2022, 12:28 PM   #140
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Watch Burks play. He's plenty fast.
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Old 04-26-2022, 12:59 PM   #141
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I never said RAS was gospel.

I just think that if you have a low score I'd like to hear the reason why a player is going to be better than that score.

For instance people said that Bolton had elite anticipation and understanding of where to be and when. As far as I can tell that prediction was 100% accurate.

The guy who creates RAS is constantly tweeting outliers, guys with pretty low scores who succeed despite them. It's just kind of the exception, you don't disprove all RAS scores by showing one example of a guy who scored low and succeeded anyway. It doesn't pop the bubble.
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Old 04-26-2022, 03:04 PM   #142
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Why do people put any credence into RAS scores?

Top 10 Chiefs in terms of RAS scores include the following players:
Brian Johnston (DE) perfect 10
William Bartee (CB) perfect 10
Brad Cottom (TE) 9.5
Omar Easy (FB) 10.0
Fujita (LB) 9.96
Jeff Webb (WR) 9.9
Chris Conley (WR) 9.68
Mike Capatano (DE) 9.81
Why didn't you include all 10?

It's possible to let RAS, or a version of it, factor into a decision without being the driving force. I'm betting that is how most front offices use these types of analytics. I doubt any halfway decent GM would make a draft decision based solely on RAS.

That score doesn't claim to account for skill, instincts, vision, or character. All pretty important variables.

Nick Bolton is a good example. His main attributes coming out were his instincts, processing, and tackling ability. That pretty well shined through watching him play last year. No one would call Nick Bolton a freak athlete in today's NFL, but he's a damn fine linebacker.
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Old 04-26-2022, 03:40 PM   #143
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Anyone expecting Burks to be Deebo will be sorely disappointed.

He is nowhere near the threat that Deebo is with the ball in his hands.

Watching that clip of Burks take a WR handoff around the corner was cringe. That is not his game. The Deebo comparisons are kind of lazy. They're mostly based off physical appearance IMO.
No, I see AJ Brown.

which is fine. that's a useful player.
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Old 04-26-2022, 04:30 PM   #144
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No, I see AJ Brown.

which is fine. that's a useful player.
Good comparison!

Watch Burks! He isnt Drake London, he regularly takes it to the house. Pulling away from DBs on his way. RAS says he shouldnt be able to do that but he does! I would take him over Drake all day and yet Drake is ranked much higher.
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Watch Burks play. He's plenty fast.
I like Burks just fine.

I'm not in on London. I just don't see that translating to the NFL. I see Kelvin Benjamin.
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I'm not fond of either one of them.
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I like Burks just fine.

I'm not in on London. I just don't see that translating to the NFL. I see Kelvin Benjamin.
Which Benjamin? Fat Benjamin?!


It doesn't matter if you like London. Actual NFL teams do.
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Which Benjamin? Fat Benjamin?!


It doesn't matter if you like London. Actual NFL teams do.
Yeah well, that's just...like...my opinion, man.
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Yeah well, that's just...like...my opinion, man.
Mike Williams was a recent top ten pick and just got a contract for 20 million a year.

You may not be a fan of the style of WR but London is a better prospect than Williams was. Quicker, more agile. Also strong on the ball.
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Mike Williams was a recent top ten pick and just got a contract for 20 million a year.

You may not be a fan of the style of WR but London is a better prospect than Williams was. Quicker, more agile. Also strong on the ball.
yeah, well...that's just like...YOUR opinion, man.
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