8/7/22 Training Camp Discussion

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by Rainbarrel

Shouldn't you be out shooting moles with a nail gun

I think you have the wrong poster, however id be more than willing too. I hate those bastards. Thankfully my two Brittany Spaniels are great about digging them up... and leaving them out for me to hit with the mower.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by Rainbarrel

https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/list...s-day-10-2022/

The Kansas City Chiefs were back at training camp practice at Missouri Western State University in St. Joseph, Missouri on Sunday.

It was a crowded house for the ever-popular “Family Fun Day” at training camp. Families of Chiefs fans flocked to practice in order to get a look at the newest iteration of the team. If they were hoping to find the offense in midseason form, Chiefs Kingdom probably left practice disappointed. It was a rough practice session for the starting offense in particular, though they did have some nice moments as practice continued.

Here are a few of the things that we’re taking away from the latest practice session:

The Chiefs did not have a good day of offensive work on Sunday. During one of the 11-on-11 periods of practice, the starting offense saw a trio of false start penalties. That included two false starts from franchise-tagged LT Orlando Brown Jr., who notably was absent from voluntary offseason workouts and held out during the first week of training camp. The sequence of penalties was so egregious that Andy Reid threw the starters off the field before their series of plays were over.

Chiefs offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy had a very good teaching point to share from these particular offensive struggles.

“The thing that we need to learn once we watch the tape is that things happen in life,” Bieniemy said. “Meaning, every play is not going to be your best play. So, how you respond, tells you what type of character you have. We’ve got to make sure that we’re displaying that character and understand that this is a team game. We will respond, but that last play can’t impact what we’re going to do next.”

Of those three false starts, Bieniemy says that the team simply didn’t execute and referred again to his message above.

“For whatever reason, it happened,” Bieniemy said. “But (it’s) a life lesson and we keep it moving.”

The Chiefs gave the starting offensive line a bit of a change-up at times on Sunday. Free agent signing Geron Christian got some work as the team’s starting right tackle in place of Andrew Wylie. While Christian and Wylie seemed to rotate throughout practice, the team clearly wanted to get a look at the former third-round draft pick out of Louisville.

“This is the stage where you’re always just trying to look at certain pieces to see what they can do and how they handle it when placed in that situation, ” Chiefs OC Eric Bieniemy explained. “Each and every day I’m sure, you’ve probably seen something, whether it’s at the O-Line, receiver, or running back position. We just want to see how guys play.”

Bieniemy declined to comment on Christian’s performance as he wanted to watch the tape more closely.

Right now, I’m not passing judgment on anyone,” Bieniemy said. “The thing that we want to do while we’re out here, are we all being accountable to one another? Are we executing with great attention to detail? Are we having a sense of urgency and purpose with what we’re doing? That can be at (every position) because we want to continue evaluating our players.”

In his repetitions as first-team right tackle, Chiefs Wire’s Wesley Roesch noted that Christian kept third-year DE Mike Danna contained multiple times. Roesch said Christian did struggle with rookie DE George Karlaftis once on a spin move.

Carlos Dunlap continues to see his practice repetitions increase as the team ramps up his workload. He worked primarily with the second-team defense against the second-team offense on Sunday. His natural abilities seem to significantly outmatch that of the second-team offensive line.

The Athletic’s Nate Taylor noted that Dunlap had his way with the second-team offensive line, notching at least one would-be sack on Chad Henne.

Carlos Dunlap is wrecking the 2nd-team offense, just finished a rep that you could project as a sack of Chad Henne.

— Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) August 7, 2022

As Dunlap learns more and more about the defensive scheme and playbook, you can expect him to earn more time with the first-team defense. Perhaps after this performance, the coaching staff will give him more time to work opposite Frank Clark.

A pair of Chiefs players on opposite sides of the ball continued to stack good days of practice.

Mecole Hardman had one of the standout plays of Saturday’s practice. He followed that performance up by being one of the standout players on what was mostly a forgettable practice session from the starting offense. Hardman had a few great plays in the 11-on-11 long-drive period, but he also had this catch in 1-on-1 against rookie CB Joshua Williams.

Another player stacking good practices was first-round CB Trent McDuffie. Earlier in training camp, McDuffie struggled with the length of some of the Chiefs’ receivers, but he’s playing much better against it now. He let Marquez Valdes-Scantling out-muscle him on a very similar play to the one below, but this time around McDuffie laid out to ensure that the pass did not reach its intended target.

Okay now this is a camp report

[Red Dawg]

Judgement is passed in games not camp. When they play like shit and lose then we can start bitching about individual players.

[O.city]

Doesn’t seem like it takes other teams half a season to get their defense to “gel”

Why does it seem to take spags so long?

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by O.city

Doesn’t seem like it takes other teams half a season to get their defense to “gel”

Why does it seem to take spags so long?

He’s chained to shit players like Trenton macduffin who can’t win one on ones in camp.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

Doesn’t seem like it takes other teams half a season to get their defense to “gel”

Why does it seem to take spags so long?

2019-9 new starters
2020-struggled to adjust
2021-they just weren’t good anymore

I think that will continue early this year but bc of so much drastic turnover and youth. We’re gonna have like 4 rookies playing a lot in this defense alone. It’s gonna take time

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RunKC

2019-9 new starters
2020-struggled to adjust
2021-they just weren’t good anymore

I think that will continue early this year but bc of so much drastic turnover and youth. We’re gonna have like 4 rookies playing a lot in this defense alone. It’s gonna take time

Teams turn over. Each year teams have a bunch of new starters and it doesn’t seem to take that long to get up to speed.

Maybe I’m just more in tuned to the chiefs woes than other teams

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

Teams turn over. Each year teams have a bunch of new starters and it doesn’t seem to take that long to get up to speed.

Maybe I’m just more in tuned to the chiefs woes than other teams

They just weren’t talented. Other teams spent 1st rd picks on defense. Before the recent draft, we hadn’t spent a first rd pick on defense since Marcus Peters in 2015.

I get Bolton and Jones and Sneed are great gets but draft picks matter. That’s why I think it was the smart move trading Tyreek and getting two 1st rd defenders.

We really needed that badly

[smithandrew051]

The long article quote followed by a short response is either the funniest not funny thing or the least funny funny thing. I can’t decide, but I laugh every time.

[Tribal Warfare]

Here are a few of the things we learned from the latest #Chiefs training camp practice: https://t.co/oszKTOa5Zl

— Chiefs Wire (@TheChiefsWire) August 8, 2022

Spoiler!

4 takeaways from Day 10 of Chiefs training camp
Charles Goldman

The Kansas City Chiefs were back at training camp practice at Missouri Western State University in St. Joseph, Missouri on Sunday.

It was a crowded house for the ever-popular “Family Fun Day” at training camp. Families of Chiefs fans flocked to practice in order to get a look at the newest iteration of the team. If they were hoping to find the offense in midseason form, Chiefs Kingdom probably left practice disappointed. It was a rough practice session for the starting offense in particular, though they did have some nice moments as practice continued.

Here are a few of the things that we’re taking away from the latest practice session:

Denny Medley-USA TODAY Sports

The Chiefs did not have a good day of offensive work on Sunday. During one of the 11-on-11 periods of practice, the starting offense saw a trio of false start penalties. That included two false starts from franchise-tagged LT Orlando Brown Jr., who notably was absent from voluntary offseason workouts and held out during the first week of training camp. The sequence of penalties was so egregious that Andy Reid threw the starters off the field before their series of plays were over.

Chiefs offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy had a very good teaching point to share from these particular offensive struggles.

“The thing that we need to learn once we watch the tape is that things happen in life,” Bieniemy said. “Meaning, every play is not going to be your best play. So, how you respond, tells you what type of character you have. We’ve got to make sure that we’re displaying that character and understand that this is a team game. We will respond, but that last play can’t impact what we’re going to do next.”

Of those three false starts, Bieniemy says that the team simply didn’t execute and referred again to his message above.

“For whatever reason, it happened,” Bieniemy said. “But (it’s) a life lesson and we keep it moving.”

Denny Medley-USA TODAY Sports

The Chiefs gave the starting offensive line a bit of a change-up at times on Sunday. Free agent signing Geron Christian got some work as the team’s starting right tackle in place of Andrew Wylie. While Christian and Wylie seemed to rotate throughout practice, the team clearly wanted to get a look at the former third-round draft pick out of Louisville.

“This is the stage where you’re always just trying to look at certain pieces to see what they can do and how they handle it when placed in that situation, ” Chiefs OC Eric Bieniemy explained. “Each and every day I’m sure, you’ve probably seen something, whether it’s at the O-Line, receiver, or running back position. We just want to see how guys play.”

Bieniemy declined to comment on Christian’s performance as he wanted to watch the tape more closely.

“Right now, I’m not passing judgment on anyone,” Bieniemy said. “The thing that we want to do while we’re out here, are we all being accountable to one another? Are we executing with great attention to detail? Are we having a sense of urgency and purpose with what we’re doing? That can be at (every position) because we want to continue evaluating our players.”

In his repetitions as first-team right tackle, Chiefs Wire’s Wesley Roesch noted that Christian kept third-year DE Mike Danna contained multiple times. Roesch said Christian did struggle with rookie DE George Karlaftis once on a spin move.

AP Photo/ John Froschauer

Carlos Dunlap continues to see his practice repetitions increase as the team ramps up his workload. He worked primarily with the second-team defense against the second-team offense on Sunday. His natural abilities seem to significantly outmatch that of the second-team offensive line.

The Athletic’s Nate Taylor noted that Dunlap had his way with the second-team offensive line, notching at least one would-be sack on Chad Henne.

As Dunlap learns more and more about the defensive scheme and playbook, you can expect him to earn more time with the first-team defense. Perhaps after this performance, the coaching staff will give him more time to work opposite Frank Clark.

AP Photo/Reed Hoffmann

A pair of Chiefs players on opposite sides of the ball continued to stack good days of practice.

Mecole Hardman had one of the standout plays of Saturday’s practice. He followed that performance up by being one of the standout players on what was mostly a forgettable practice session from the starting offense. Hardman had a few great plays in the 11-on-11 long-drive period, but he also had this catch in 1-on-1 against rookie CB Joshua Williams.

Another player stacking good practices was first-round CB Trent McDuffie. Earlier in training camp, McDuffie struggled with the length of some of the Chiefs’ receivers, but he’s playing much better against it now. He let Marquez Valdes-Scantling out-muscle him on a very similar play to the one below, but this time around McDuffie laid out to ensure that the pass did not reach its intended target.

[oldman]

I'm taking a lot of what I see here with a grain of salt. They may be wearing pads, but the real hitting will come when there are guys with a different color uniform across from them.

To expect any of our rookies to be standouts on every play is just foolish. All-pros get beat on occasion. Maybe it was just a bad day for some of the guys.

I'm not too worried about PMII. He's probably trying out some stuff. When the time comes, he'll be money.

BV isn't done yet. He'll be looking at the waiver wire and for guys that he can get for 40% of the plays for cheap.

[srvy]

DC has nothing to do with it.

Direckshun is an arrogant asshole who thinks he is a GM. The dude is clueless but posts like he knows something. Typical drafterbator who needs to get a grip on reality, That reality is you know nothing in the real football world. Nobody takes your football posts seriously and no one in the NFL would even give you a listen. Don't give up your day job you will need it.

[Rainbarrel]

I guess Michael Vick was there and the dogs were anxious(there was a link).

[Molitoth]

Players are going to have better days than others.

When I went to camp last Thursday, McDuffie was a standout making plays all over and MVS was shit, dropping 2 bomb TD's on top of a third bad play.

Sometimes players get in their own heads and they just need to go sleep and start over the next day. They are just like us normal people when we go to our jobs. Not ever day is amazing.

[R Clark]

Originally Posted by Molitoth

Players are going to have better days than others.

When I went to camp last Thursday, McDuffie was a standout making plays all over and MVS was shit, dropping 2 bomb TD's on top of a third bad play.

Sometimes players get in their own heads and they just need to go sleep and start over the next day. They are just like us normal people when we go to our jobs. Not ever day is amazing.

Speak for yourself ,some of us are amazing day in sand day out .