*****The Josh Simmons Thread*****

[Dante84]

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— Patrick Mahomes II (@PatrickMahomes) April 25, 2025

Several teams agree: Josh Simmons had best tape of any OT last year. And they aren't very concerned with recovery on the torn patella tendon. More of the concern is maturity/character. But he's going to the ideal, veteran-laden place.

— Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) April 25, 2025

the #chiefs get LT Josh Simmons out of Ohio State. If Simmons didn't suffer a torn patellar tendon he would have been the first tackle off the board. I had one team tell me he was the most athletic and talented tackle tape they watched. There are some maturity issues, but this…

— James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) April 25, 2025

The #Chiefs have selected #OSU OT Josh Simmons at No. 32, a player recovering nicely from a torn patellar tendon. They are comfortable with his rehab and did endless homework on it. https://t.co/awdb0JhPed

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 25, 2025

The #Chiefs are selecting Ohio State LT Josh Simmons at No. 32 to close out Round 1.

A key addition to bolster the offensive line in front of Patrick Mahomes. pic.twitter.com/oBx2CjzmCe

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) April 25, 2025

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks

The key word being "allegedly".

Nice bluff by Veach, because if the Chiefs signed off on Simmons' knee pre-draft - which they obviously did - there was no way in hell we weren't taking Simmons with that pick if he fell that far. Not after the turnstile our LT position was last season, and even with signing Moore.

We weren't going to trade back and blow the amazing sequence of events that had to take place for the Chiefs to have a potential top-of-the-1st-round franchise LT fall into their laps.

At the same time, if you're Philly, is it a bluff you're willing to call?

You have a SB roster -- you don't have a TON of spots open. You also had EIGHT picks in rounds 5 and 6. You don't need that many 3rd day picks.

If all you're doing is giving up one of those 8 picks to just remove the risk of losing your guy, why wouldn't you?

I don't think that's surprising at all and for the Eagles I think it's every bit the no-brainer it was for the Chiefs.

Now the most interesting component is really the flip from 168 to 164. It's possible that being 4 spots higher helped us get that deal done with Pittsburgh for only one additional 7th. We had to use our 'top' 7th rounder to get there; the Carolina 7th. And we didn't have a 6th. So if we're at 168 instead of 164, maybe we have to chip in an additional 7th (which might cost us Brashard Smith) or maybe we can't get it done at all.

And the Eagles took Mondon at 161. Maybe they take Bassa instead with that pick if we can't get just a little more from Howie and are stuck at 168.

Just an interesting demonstration that sometimes every little concession matters.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by fuzzy

You are mistaken. I said it's good to trade up for a premium position like Tackle or Pass Rusher.

Wide receiver is a premium position in the NFL, genious

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by fuzzy

You are mistaken. I said it's good to trade up for a premium position like Tackle or Pass Rusher.

Specifically you said you wanted to see the Chiefs do it for Joe Alt. Throwing in a player or two isn’t going to get that job done

[fuzzy]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Wide receiver is a premium position in the NFL, genious

I disagree entirely.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by fuzzy

I disagree entirely.

Go look at what they get paid, it's pretty obvious they are.

[fuzzy]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Go look at what they get paid, it's pretty obvious they are.

That's a market inefficiency.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by fuzzy

That's a market inefficiency.

It's really not, top end WR's change the game. It's why it's quickly becoming the highest paid position on offense outside of QB.

[Shields68]

Originally Posted by Mecca

It's really not, top end WR's change the game. It's why it's quickly becoming the highest paid position on offense outside of QB.

I would agree. Justin Jefferson and Ty Hill are able to make an average QB (Darnold/Tua) look way above average. Though they are not a lot of those guys.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Shields68

I would agree. Justin Jefferson and Ty Hill are able to make an average QB (Darnold/Tua) look way above average. Though they are not a lot of those guys.

You can use us as an example also..

We lose Hill and Kelce declines and our HOF QB doesn't look as good now. Having marginal weapons in today's game creates real issues no matter how good your QB is.

[fuzzy]

Originally Posted by Mecca

It's really not, top end WR's change the game. It's why it's quickly becoming the highest paid position on offense outside of QB.

Top Tackles change the game more so than top end WRs.

[RunKC]

Sounds like the Chiefs were not alone in their medical evaluation of this kid. Per the report, most teams that this reporter spoke to were not overly concerned with his injury, but more so his character.

Like the draft note about LT Josh Simmons for Kansas City... as we have heard elsewhere it was not as much a matter of the return from injury, but the character concerns.

I trust Andy Reid to get the best out of him from a mentality perspective, but it would be nice if they… pic.twitter.com/49NintA02N

— DMac Wake (@DMacWake316) May 7, 2025

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Sounds like the Chiefs were not alone in their medical evaluation of this kid. Per the report, most teams that this reporter spoke to were not overly concerned with his injury, but more so his character.

Like the draft note about LT Josh Simmons for Kansas City... as we have heard elsewhere it was not as much a matter of the return from injury, but the character concerns.

I trust Andy Reid to get the best out of him from a mentality perspective, but it would be nice if they… pic.twitter.com/49NintA02N

— DMac Wake (@DMacWake316) May 7, 2025

That stuff was out there before the draft. I call some bullshit on it.

He doesn’t like to practice and isn’t passionate about run-blocking? Sounds an awful lot like a lot of good LT. Like Laremy Tunsil.

[ThrobProng]

Is run blocking really "not important" to him, or does he simply like it less than pass blocking? Big difference.

[Semichief]

Whatever bad habits Simmons had in college, they're more likely to improve than to continue. Reid, Heck, and Mahomes won't let him coast in any aspect of his game and let him be a weak link on a title contending team. And with the money he could make as an elite LT, he'll have 100+ million reasons to work hard.

[nychief]

I don't know how a team could not be at least somewhat concerned about a Patella injury, but sure...if they don't like his practice habits... whatever? Seems like teams backfilling, worried the chiefs pulled a fast one, to me.