***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Even people in banks such as tellers are being laid off because the banks are not opening the lobbies. While we will bounce back, the economic cost in the short term is going to be massive as we have already seen so far.

[SuperBowl4]

http://medindia.net/patients/calcula...eath-clock.asp
WORLD DEATH CLOCK

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by wazu

Good lord. Doesn’t he have handlers or someone to manage his ignorant, incompetent ass? How does anybody let that statement go out?

Psst: you might want to look into how he became Governor.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Even people in banks such as tellers are being laid off because the banks are not opening the lobbies. While we will bounce back, the economic cost in the short term is going to be massive as we have already seen so far.

Hospital workers are being laid off or reduced hours because outpatient services are being cut back.I have only 3 scheduled patients today.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Hospital workers are being laid off or reduced hours because outpatient services are being cut back.I have only 3 scheduled patients today.

Exactly. So even essential businesses are not keeping full employment.

[Donger]

Sobering story about COVID-19 and smaller towns:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/02/us/al...rus/index.html

[notorious]

My business is in the “want” category. We are rip-roaring right now, but I’m not blind to the fact of what is going to happen in 3 or 4 months when people don’t have money to upgrade their house.

I am somewhat insulated since our local economy is Ag and Cattle based. I can’t imagine how a big city floor guy is going to handle this in an economy that’s based on blue sky and not tangible needs.

The secondary hit is going to be just as bad as this primary hit.

[petegz28]

The best and most reasonable hope that we have is to hopefully find some kind of a treatment fast so we can start getting the economy going again. We are still months away at the very least for a vaccine and our economy cannot be shut down for much longer. Definitely not until a vaccine is ready. We have to hope we get a treatment that can be applied, even if it is a permanent treatment or you are going to start seeing some really bad shit.

[Discuss Thrower]

It will take a decade to recover from the economic damage done at best.

And that's not even a likely outcome. The USA is on the way to being Venezuela. Just watch.

[HonestChieffan]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

You have very very minuscule chance of getting this and then being more than standard flu like symptoms as a worse case.

This is an example of the dangers of social media...

To tell anyone this is what encourages the "it can't happen to me" behaviors. Off people go, ignoring all the warnings, not washing, not a care they stand around the vegetables at Walmart and visit with friends with the whole family, the kids touching each other, a stop at the McD's drive up so everyone gets a cup of pop handled by three people who have done nothing to be safe.....

The fact is the more you expose yourself out of the controlled environment at your home the chances rise and your chance is every bit as real as the last person who tested positive.

This period of time will be studied by social scientists for years to come as we discuss and unwind the examples of social media moving dangerously false rumors, speculations and misstatements that led to higher risk behaviors.


People spread Corona. Don't be where people are.

[HonestChieffan]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

It will take a decade to recover from the economic damage done at best.

And that's not even a likely outcome. The USA is on the way to being Venezuela. Just watch.

Have you divested and what are your investments in such a case?

[petegz28]

This is all about NY at the moment. Nothing is going to happen in the way of opening things up anywhere until they get their shit right up there. Di Blasio this morning saying that NYC will need an additional 65,000 beds by the end of this month.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

It will take a decade to recover from the economic damage done at best.

And that's not even a likely outcome. The USA is on the way to being Venezuela. Just watch.

Dude, shut the **** up.

[petegz28]

So if people want some perspective on us vs. Italy here you go: Italy has almost half of the cases that we have with almost 3-times more deaths.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

It will take a decade to recover from the economic damage done at best.

And that's not even a likely outcome. The USA is on the way to being Venezuela. Just watch.

The definition of a miserable user.