*.* 2014 General Fitness Thread *.*

[penguinz]

Welcome to 2014! Now get your ass in top physical condition!

No one else started it so here it is!

**From the 2013 Thread**

If you want to get back into lifting, or need a new lifting routine, START HERE:

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wi...inner_Programs

If you have questions about the SS programs, look here:

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ

Keep in mind that you're a novice lifter for a longer period of time than you think you are. Novice lifting can last anywhere from a few months to a year or two, depending on how hard you hit the weights and where you started.

Once you've reached the point where you don't make regular progress on the SS program, you are ready to move on to the intermediate stage, which can last you for a good number of years. Find it HERE:

http://madcow.hostzi.com/5x5_Program/Linear_5x5.htm

If you're a very advanced lifter (many, many years of CONSISTENT weight training), then there are lot of programs out there, and which one you pick is simply a matter of preference. If you're really that advanced, you should know what works for you and what doesn't by this point.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by ChiefsOne

Let's just say you give bad advise and are somewhat knowledgable from "all the fitness magazines you've read", but you have more to learn. Starting with smoking is bad for you and really doesn't work well with fitness and weight lifting!

I didn't "advise", just offered some "advice", Biff.

Now I gotta take shit from people who cant spell, gotta love the planet.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Silock

I mentioned steroids for women because testosterone builds muscles. Some girls have more than others, and will build bigger muscles. Welcome to genetics.

But by and large, the vast majority of women simply cannot build muscles like you see on a man without medicinal help. That's just how it works.

Yes, women can "bulk" like men, by eating lots of protein and lots of calories, but it's still physiologically different. Too many women are afraid that lifting heavy will make them look like She-Hulk, when the opposite is true. Higher weight with less reps will give them the desired outcome. Just because they lift like a man won't make them look like a man.

Oh, I agree, but I don't like it when a woman (or guy for that matter) has some degree of musculature and it's automatically assumed that they are juicing.

Oh, while on the subject of excerise, I couldn't get to the gym last night, so I had to do back/tricep at home. First time I've done pullups since going back to the gym five/six weeks ago and, man, my body weight pullups absolutely sucked. Did less reps than before I started working out at the gym again. Kinda depressing.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by scott free

I didn't "advise", just offered some "advice", Biff.

Now I gotta take shit from people who cant spell, gotta love the planet.

Dude, relax. Go have a cigarette and a workout.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Amazing when we have a thread where CE is actively involved and he is only #3 on the troll list.

I'm an awesome troll when I apply myself.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

Dude, relax. Go have a cigarette and a workout.

I agree, and admitted I was wrong about female physiology when it comes to weightlifting... but I didn't always smoke and wasn't always out of shape, there was a time my dear man when I was like a Greek sculpture/drifts off wistfully...

But yeah, the rest of what I said stands and it works.

[ChiefsOne]

Originally Posted by scott free

I didn't "advise", just offered some "advice", Biff.

Now I gotta take shit from people who cant spell, gotta love the planet.

I'm typing on my phone, sorry. Got smoke a cig and settle down!

[Silock]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Oh, I agree, but I don't like it when a woman (or guy for that matter) has some degree of musculature and it's automatically assumed that they are juicing.

I never said that it was automatic. I simply said that women aren't going to get huge muscles without help.

I know lots of muscular guys and ladies that don't juice. But the women still look like women. Contrast that to some of the women bodybuilders at the gym, and there's a HUGE difference. That difference is made possible through injections.

The only reason steroids come up so often is because it's VERY common. And I actually do not look down at anyone who does. I've looked into it myself. I'm simply saying that the training methods and results for those who do use drugs are different from those who don't, so taking results from one group and trying to apply the methodology and results to the other doesn't usually work. I only ask that those who do be honest about it so that others can see exactly what went on to make the results possible. I don't think that's asking too much.

[luv]

Originally Posted by Silock

I mentioned steroids for women because testosterone builds muscles. Some girls have more than others, and will build bigger muscles. Welcome to genetics.

But by and large, the vast majority of women simply cannot build muscles like you see on a man without medicinal help. That's just how it works.

Yes, women can "bulk" like men, by eating lots of protein and lots of calories, but it's still physiologically different. Too many women are afraid that lifting heavy will make them look like She-Hulk, when the opposite is true. Higher weight with less reps will give them the desired outcome. Just because they lift like a man won't make them look like a man.

And testosterone is also one of the main reasons why men lose weight faster than women. Lucky bunch of assholes.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by luv

And testosterone is also one of the main reasons why men lose weight faster than women. Lucky bunch of assholes.

Yup. Whenever we go on a cut together, my wife HAAAAAAAAATES me. She's so jealous of how easily the weight comes off compared to her.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Silock

I never said that it was automatic. I simply said that women aren't going to get huge muscles without help.

I know lots of muscular guys and ladies that don't juice. But the women still look like women. Contrast that to some of the women bodybuilders at the gym, and there's a HUGE difference. That difference is made possible through injections.

The only reason steroids come up so often is because it's VERY common. And I actually do not look down at anyone who does. I've looked into it myself. I'm simply saying that the training methods and results for those who do use drugs are different from those who don't, so taking results from one group and trying to apply the methodology and results to the other doesn't usually work. I only ask that those who do be honest about it so that others can see exactly what went on to make the results possible. I don't think that's asking too much.

See, I do.

I think it's a total pussy move. It's like breast augmentation, collagen lip injections for men.

And you aren't going to find many people being honest with it because it's viewed as cheating as well as being illegal.

[TambaBerry]

Hey, so I havent lifted weights for about three years. I'm looking to get back into it but I have no idea where to start. Any advice?

[Simply Red]

silock how many calories are you taking in per day, these days?

[Silock]

Originally Posted by dingleberry

Hey, so I havent lifted weights for about three years. I'm looking to get back into it but I have no idea where to start. Any advice?

I'd look at the very first post of the thread.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by Simply Red

silock how many calories are you taking in per day, these days?

Um, 4,000? 5,000? I dunno. Haven't been keeping track of calories. I eat lots of ice cream and pizza and random shit with lots of protein that tastes good. Only for another week, though. I'm overtrained like crazy. Taking a month off of lifting and soccer to focus on yoga and resting. Gonna cut my cals back to about 1500-1800 then.

I have three teams playing for indoor soccer championships on different days this week, though, so first things first.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by Silock

Um, 4,000? 5,000? I dunno. Haven't been keeping track of calories. I eat lots of ice cream and pizza and random shit with lots of protein that tastes good. Only for another week, though. I'm overtrained like crazy. Taking a month off of lifting and soccer to focus on yoga and resting. Gonna cut my cals back to about 1500-1800 then.

I have three teams playing for indoor soccer championships on different days this week, though, so first things first.

That's cool - honestly I feel totally lost as to how many calories to intake, daily.

I know we've been down this road in the older thread - I simply have forgotten the formula. Not sure it matters - but I'm 6' 1" -- 183 LBS - would like to add some additional muscle - but not interested in getting ginormous, or very big - Just want to add some more meat - and rip. I'm already on my way - but truthfully I'm not sure if I've been ingesting 2k cals. or 2,500 cals. - per day - but in the areana.

How can I find the right approach - and maybe, what should that approach be?