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Old 09-23-2018, 08:30 AM  
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Earl Thomas a longshot to be a Chief
They just said on ESPN we were on the list of teams that he could be dealt to.
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Old 09-25-2018, 11:54 AM   #1576
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Theres no chance it ends up costing a first. I'd be surprised if it's more than just a single 2nd.

The addition of the contract is gonna lower the price and his age.
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Old 09-25-2018, 11:55 AM   #1577
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I'd argue that the increase in ratings is not from an increase in offense, but instead a plethora of fresh, new young QB talent. The NFL has been in a QB dry spell for the past few years while the last of the old guard play out their final seasons.
It's all of the above. The NFL is changing right before our eyes.
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Old 09-25-2018, 11:55 AM   #1578
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I'd argue that the increase in ratings is not from an increase in offense, but instead a plethora of fresh, new young QB talent. The NFL has been in a QB dry spell for the past few years while the last of the old guard play out their final seasons.
I think that argument is basically the same. The new fresh qb's are bringing a helluva lot of offense with them.

Either way, we have the offense and a new young stud QB. Go get Earl Thomas and let's fight for a Super Bowl!
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Old 09-25-2018, 11:55 AM   #1579
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Earl Thomas is going to cost more but you don't think he has 4 or 5 years in him? And it's not going to be a high pick, someone should go look at like the last 5 drafts and fine me someone taken between 25-32 that you'd trade Earl Thomas for.
No, Thomas would be worth more. Just leary of him signing long term.

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First of all, it won't be a 1st round pick.

And second, he's not signing anywhere if he's not getting a new deal.

This isn't a 12-game rental.

If he's coming here, it's for 3-4 years and large money.
Last I heard from the talking heads on ESPN was that a sign and trade is not possible in the NFL. You have to make the trade and then work out a contract. Just going off what I heard. No idea if thats true or not.


Why would ESPN get something that basic wrong? Are you telling me that Thomas and the Seahawks aren't trading Thomas without a long term deal in place with the new team?
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Old 09-25-2018, 11:56 AM   #1580
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See now you're seeing it. NFL passing and passing TDs are on pace to break every record ever. This just isn't the same old NFL anymore. Times are changing. It's time to get ahead of the curve.
I still don't like the scheme. BUT-it is what it is. If you can go get the players to run it this far into the season, your window is open NOW. Do it.
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The Seahawks could agree to let the Chiefs and Thomas agent discuss an extension IIRC.

Same with the Bears and Khalil, that was done before they finalized the trade.
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Old 09-25-2018, 11:59 AM   #1582
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No, Thomas would be worth more. Just leary of him signing long term.

Last I heard from the talking heads on ESPN was that a sign and trade is not possible in the NFL. You have to make the trade and then work out a contract. Just going off what I heard. No idea if thats true or not.


Why would ESPN get something that basic wrong? Are you telling me that Thomas and the Seahawks aren't trading Thomas without a long term deal in place with the new team?
In the NFL, the Seahawks can workout the terms of a trade, in principle, with the Chiefs and then give the Chiefs permission to negotiate a deal with Thomas in good faith.

Both the Seahawks' compensation (draft picks) and Thomas' (money) can be worked out ahead of time.

ESPN is wrong. Go read the timeline of the Alex Smith deal and you'll see how it is done. Alex Smith was effectively traded before the league season even started.
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Old 09-25-2018, 11:59 AM   #1583
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No, Thomas would be worth more. Just leary of him signing long term.

Last I heard from the talking heads on ESPN was that a sign and trade is not possible in the NFL. You have to make the trade and then work out a contract. Just going off what I heard. No idea if thats true or not.


Why would ESPN get something that basic wrong? Are you telling me that Thomas and the Seahawks aren't trading Thomas without a long term deal in place with the new team?
The Seahawks give you permission to talk to him, you work out the deal, trade occurs he signs the contract when he comes in.
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Old 09-25-2018, 12:01 PM   #1584
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I still don't like the scheme. BUT-it is what it is. If you can go get the players to run it this far into the season, your window is open NOW. Do it.
Yeah, the scheme isn't changing this year so it really isn't a discussion worth having anymore.

Getting rid of Sutton is an offseason decision. With the way Mahomes is playing now, we can't wait to do something different.

Try Thomas and change coordinators this spring if it doesn't quite pay off.
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Old 09-25-2018, 12:02 PM   #1585
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Andy Reid wouldn't talk specifically about Seattle's unhappy safety, Earl Thomas, and whether the Chiefs would be interested in trading for him. But he seemed to indicate they're not in that market when he said in talking about trades in general: "I know the rumors are out there but that's not where we're at
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Andy Reid wouldn't talk specifically about Seattle's unhappy safety, Earl Thomas, and whether the Chiefs would be interested in trading for him. But he seemed to indicate they're not in that market when he said in talking about trades in general: "I know the rumors are out there but that's not where we're at
That was yesterday. Keep up.
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Andy Reid wouldn't talk specifically about Seattle's unhappy safety, Earl Thomas, and whether the Chiefs would be interested in trading for him. But he seemed to indicate they're not in that market when he said in talking about trades in general: "I know the rumors are out there but that's not where we're at
He has to say that. We already got nailed (undeservedly so) for tampering, no way he risks it again.
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That was yesterday. Keep up.
I hate megathreads. Who started this sum bitch?
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People also need to realize that, since Maclin, Reid will shoot down any and all talk of the team acquiring new personnel.
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