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***Official 2023 STL Cardinals Thread ***
2023 thread. Walker makes the roster. I'll update the rosters and opening day lineup when its official

2023 Opening Day Lineup
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2022 Opening Day roster.
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For the new Cardinal fans that joined the Planet since last year, here are some of the historical threads going back to 2006.
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Old 12-08-2023, 04:52 PM   #1591
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Old 12-08-2023, 04:54 PM   #1593
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Y'all know how many GMs are in the Hall of Fame?

4. Four.

Branch Rickey, Larry MacPhail, Ed Barrow, George Weiss...

And John Mozeliak.

Yeah - that checks out. John Mozeliak: First GM elected to the Hall of fame in 50 years. He's been THAT great.

That's the dumbest thing I've seen on the internet in awhile.
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Old 12-08-2023, 04:55 PM   #1594
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Well Marco Gonzales is a Pirate after the Mariners traded him to the Braves first.

So that seems...unlikely.
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Sean McAdam saying two prospects.

Lame.

If we got two of them, they'll both be mediocre as hell. Organizational chaff. Probably a similar return to the Flaherty pile of scraps.
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Sean McAdam saying two prospects.

Lame.

If we got two of them, they'll both be mediocre as hell. Organizational chaff. Probably a similar return to the Flaherty pile of scraps.
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Promising bullpen guy seems really goddamned generous description of Robertson. You could probably put the population of your average Santo Domingo restaurant inside a huge claw machine and randomly pick out someone as talented as Santos.

If that's all you're getting there is no point to trade him.
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Robertson's stuff checks out; scouting report looks solid. Mid-90s fastball with life; good breaking pitch. Might actually be something there.

I wouldn't have bothered with the bus fare for Santos, OTOH.

But that's how Mozeliak drives a hard bargain.

"We want Houck"
"We'll give you Robertson"
"Nah, I need more than that"
{Boston GM throws dart} -- "How about Victor Santana...I mean, Santos. Yeah, that's the guy. You'll love him."
"SOLD!"

This is why Mozeliak always has these deals with 3 fringe guys instead of a good one. He doesn't know who's worth a shit. So more is better; it's a chance to get lucky. Then when he stumbles ass backwards into a Genesis Cabrera or Juan Yepez, he pisses away their value, holds them too long and dumps them for scraps.

He's just really shitty at his job.
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Robertson's stuff checks out; scouting report looks solid. Mid-90s fastball with life; good breaking pitch. Might actually be something there.

I wouldn't have bothered with the bus fare for Santos, OTOH.

But that's how Mozeliak drives a hard bargain.

"We want Houck"
"We'll give you Robertson"
"Nah, I need more than that"
{Boston GM throws dart} -- "How about Victor Santana...I mean, Santos. Yeah, that's the guy. You'll love him."
"SOLD!"

This is why Mozeliak always has these deals with 3 fringe guys instead of a good one. He doesn't know who's worth a shit. So more is better; it's a chance to get lucky. Then when he stumbles ass backwards into a Genesis Cabrera or Juan Yepez, he pisses away their value, holds them too long and dumps them for scraps.

He's just really shitty at his job.
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Saw this exciting news on mlbtraderumors earlier. Always in a hurry to hand out an extension for declining years.

In a chat today with readers, Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports that the Cardinals will approach first baseman Paul Goldschmidt at some point this offseason with the hope of discussing a contract extension. He says the club prefers to get a deal done before the start of the season but that they will leave the door open for in-season discussions. He adds that neither side expects the conversation to be contentious and the club believes they can extend him through the remainder of his career.
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