***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

Re-replying because you changed the post.

I very much said BAD FLU SEASON and that is what was quoted and what Hamas was a prick about.

I did however have a SEPERATE post from TWO DAYS AGO that said under 40 was same as the flu (in regards to mortality) which is also true or close enough to support the point being made. (I'd have to run the numbers but I think it is close to .12% for under 40 according to the report.)

You said that the death rate for people under 40 was the same as the flu (you didn't specify that you were referring to a bad flu season) which isn't true.

Then you changed the age to 50 and specified "bad flu" which still isn't true, and isn't what the article said.

[R Clark]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

“Just” 59 million more cases to go until it equals the 60 million # of Swine Flu cases during the 2009-2010 pandemic (and that 60 million # was just in the US).

Yet I don’t remember the same frantic minute by minute case count update from the media during the last and most recent officially declared pandemic.

Hell I hardly remember it at all, was it not as deadly?

[Titty Meat]

Of 10 states without stay-at-home orders, Missouri has most confirmed COVID-19 cases

https://www.kansascity.com/news/coro...241743076.html

[Donger]

Originally Posted by R Clark

Hell I hardly remember it at all, was it not as deadly?

.02% CFR

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by R Clark

Hell I hardly remember it at all, was it not as deadly?

It killed 500,000+ worldwide, but didn’t require “social distancing” apparently.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

It killed 500,000+ worldwide, but didn’t require “social distancing” apparently.

Did it also result in mass shortages of supplies and beds at hospitals?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by R Clark

Hell I hardly remember it at all, was it not as deadly?

12,000-16,000 dead in the US. So as deadly? Probably not at the rate things are going right now. But that's still a lot of dead people.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

It killed 500,000+ worldwide, but didn’t require “social distancing” apparently.

That's because CoronaVirus is far more contagious.

https://www.businessinsider.com/coro...rs-zika-2020-3

https://www.wwltv.com/mobile/article...f-ad1c8bfb2739

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Did it also result in mass shortages of supplies and beds at hospitals?

274,000 hospitalizations. Have we gotten there yet?

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by petegz28

274,000 hospitalizations. Have we gotten there yet?

It's not the quantity that's the problem - it's the velocity.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Of 10 states without stay-at-home orders, Missouri has most confirmed COVID-19 cases

https://www.kansascity.com/news/coro...241743076.html

I am not a fan of this lock down shit. I hated it when the KS Gov ordered it. But, if we are going to do it then lets ****ing do it and get it over with. Mo needs to just get the **** on board and go.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by stumppy

What the hell is going on in here?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaFace

It's not the quantity that's the problem - it's the velocity.

274,000 is a lot. I mean that's damn near 23,000 a month. That's a lot no matter how you cut it.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Donger

It would decrease the chance. Without a mask, down the hatch it goes if you put said infected fingers in your mouth.

I would disagree because it is going down the same hatch once the inside of compromised.

stalemate?

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by petegz28

274,000 is a lot. I mean that's damn near 23,000 a month. That's a lot no matter how you cut it.

Right. We equaled that in March, and April looks to be dramatically higher.