***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Damnit.

[burt]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Welp mo jumped up to number 19 on the list for most cases today. The kc metro area jumped up quite a bit too. So much for that trending down huh?

the trend down doesn't matter if you are the one that died....

[Donger]

Originally Posted by burt

CLEAN UP ON ISLE 9!!!

I've never been there. Sounds exotic!

[burt]

Originally Posted by Donger

I've never been there. Sounds exotic!

more quixotic....

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by burt

the trend down doesn't matter if you are the one that died....

You might’ve said it better than I did yesterday

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Because prior to now governments had demonstrated some restraint over what information they sought and how they went about using it.

I don't engage in criminal conduct so I had little concern if people in positions of authority knew where I was. But now that it seems inevitable that merely existing will soon be tantamount to criminal activity, I'm less inclined to let anyone know my whereabouts.

Oh sure, they could easily figure it out anyway - I don't use an IP mask at the office. But I'll be damned if I'm gonna make it easy for them. Google's kind enough to give them my name, address, ph# and birthday.

I'm going to at least make someone work for it.

Wanna make 14 bucks the hard way?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Damnit.

That’s for sure mr. poopy.

**** this

[The Franchise]

What is the point of a stimulus check if you aren’t getting it until almost 6 months from now?

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

How so?

Everyone under 50 appears to have a rate close to what? .12%? The group from 40-50 is .16%. Isn't that exactly what I have stated was reported? Drop it to under 40 and you are looking at .07%? That is pretty much the flu, not even a terribly bad year.

That data is different from the data I was looking at, thanks for posting it.

Based on your data, the CFR for 40-49 is similar to the overall CFR of a bad year of influenza.

I'm not sure that I agree with comparing differing age groups, ie comparing the CFR for people under 50 to a CFR of all ages groups, though, and am not sure what we should do with this information. Without knowing the CFR for those specific age groups it's hard to make a comparison.

For example saying "Everyone under 50 appears to have a rate close to what? .12%" does nothing to stratify the individual age groups. I could similarly say that "Everyone under age 110 has a CFR of 0.65." I think we would agree that neither of these statements tells the whole story, or is particularly useful

I completely agree with you that younger people are doing quite well comparatively, we have known this for a long time.

You have definitely clarified your point for me, which I do appreciate.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

No more Corona (beer)...

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/...ntl/index.html

Hopefully it goes on sale.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Hopefully it goes on sale.

It'll be gone by May 6th

[Monticore]

Our predictive model for Ontario was released today putting us on a similar path to pretty much everybody but i noticed that BC were going in the opposite direction not sure why they are doing so well with this.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'm going to at least make someone work for it.

But they won't and they're not.

If you've ever surfed the internet or made a purchase over the internet, everyone, including the US government, has your data, my data and everyone else's data.

At this point in time, it's over. The only thing that you can protect is your identity and even that is hardly foolproof.

It's just a fact of life in 2020 and beyond.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Our predictive model for Ontario was released today putting us on a similar path to pretty much everybody but i noticed that BC were going in the opposite direction not sure why they are doing so well with this.

There's speculation that the west coasts are experiencing the same strain as hit China. The east coasts got hit by multiple strains from Europe.

[Pablo]

So on this covidly site they're saying France is at 2,100 deaths in the last 24 hours? Can that be correct?