***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Pablo

So on this covidly site they're saying France is at 2,100 deaths in the last 24 hours? Can that be correct?

Worldmeter shows 1,100.

[ptlyon]

SD went up two today

[banyon]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Worldmeter shows 1,100.

Those update numbers are just the numbers since the site last updated if I understand right. Not a daily total.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

But they won't and they're not.

If you've ever surfed the internet or made a purchase over the internet, everyone, including the US government, has your data, my data and everyone else's data.

At this point in time, it's over. The only thing that you can protect is your identity and even that is hardly foolproof.

It's just a fact of life in 2020 and beyond.

They know where I've been, yes.

They don't get real time updates as to where I am.

Oh sure, they could theoretically look at IP addressed for my office and determine that someone was there, but not me.

Yeah, I'm aware of my footprint, but this is a level FAR beyond that. This is google tracking your actual movements, from point A to point B and all points in between.

No, it's not the same thing. This is far worse.

[Monticore]

Covidly looks like a rolling 24hrs while worldmeters has a daily reset which is why the numbers tend to be off.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

That’s for sure mr. poopy.

**** this

Fauci said this would happen.

He also said states should do a stay in place *looks at MO*

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Fauci said this would happen.

He also said states should do a stay in place *looks at MO*

I bet it happens at the press conference tonight. People still have to take the personal responsibility and follow the order though.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

No, it's not the same thing. This is far worse.

Two of my brothers are big time into tech. I mean, big time, huge bucks, big time positions.

Both of them have said to me in the last year that "even though it's not generally disclosed, but everyone has your data. After these companies have used said data to their own ends, they sell it".

I used to care but lately, I've just moved on to more important things because there's no use in fighting it or being upset.

This is way beyond Big Brother or anything anyone like HG Wells, Aldous Huxley and/or George Orwell could have predicted.

[TLO]

Was just reading through the article again where it states up to 50% of people may be asymptomatic.

In a way that's good, but in a way it's really bad. I just don't know..

[O.city]

Originally Posted by TLO

Was just reading through the article again where it states up to 50% of people may be asymptomatic.

In a way that's good, but in a way it's really bad. I just don't know..

It's good in that it will burn thru the population faster. It's bad in that you can't really slow it down.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

I had a renter who works at a hospital tell me she has a sore throat and is sick and just put $1350 CASH in my ****ing mailbox.

What the hell!

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

I had a renter who works at a hospital tell me she has a sore throat and is sick and just put $1350 CASH in my ****ing mailbox.

What the hell!

Lysol that shit

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by TLO

Was just reading through the article again where it states up to 50% of people may be asymptomatic.

In a way that's good, but in a way it's really bad. I just don't know..

So again man, just lock the vulnerable down as hard as you can and let the rest of us go out there and take the heat.

Because if that's accurate you're never going to tamp this down.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by TLO

Was just reading through the article again where it states up to 50% of people may be asymptomatic.

In a way that's good, but in a way it's really bad. I just don't know..

You should go watch a Dave Chapelle stand up and laugh/relax.

Lots of misinformation/guesses out there.

This is going to get nasty.

Stay at home and let it pass.

Take care, bro.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

It's good in that it will burn thru the population faster. It's bad in that you can't really slow it down.

And how many people have actually been infected? The numbers are staggering to consider..