***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Baby Lee]

Shoplifters seeing those new public mask requirements

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by O.city

You getting any better?

See above 16279

[kgrund]

Originally Posted by O.city

Kansas locked down earlier? Maybe that’s why?

I do think that is the driver they are using, but it does not make intuitive sense to me it terms of my understanding of the lockdown and "flattening the curve". My understanding is the peak is flatter but the period of time is longer as well. Given that Kansas and Missouri essentially were infected at the same time, you would think Kansas would take longer to be in the clear than Missouri.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Two of my brothers are big time into tech. I mean, big time, huge bucks, big time positions.

Both of them have said to me in the last year that "even though it's not generally disclosed, but everyone has your data. After these companies have used said data to their own ends, they sell it".

I used to care but lately, I've just moved on to more important things because there's no use in fighting it or being upset.

This is way beyond Big Brother or anything anyone like HG Wells, Aldous Huxley and/or George Orwell could have predicted.

they are being generous that it happened in the last year.

Where the shift happened was the access to cheap big data, business intelligence and analytics. You just need a cheap licesense in the AWS/Azure clouds. Now more data points are being fed into software. I saw a system the other day that had 2000 data points mapped. Which means you can search for something that has those same 2000 characteristics.

This horse has left the barn. You can’t run, you can’t hide. You can’t even live off the grid in a cabin in the woods.

The good news is besides the intelligence branches, the government still has no clue on how to utilize this tech or the competent people to run the systems.

[dirk digler]

It's a miracle

BREAKING: Missouri Gov. Parson issues statewide stay-at-home order https://t.co/GBbIuxTXW6

— 41 Action News (@41actionnews) April 3, 2020

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

It's a miracle

BREAKING: Missouri Gov. Parson issues statewide stay-at-home order https://t.co/GBbIuxTXW6

— 41 Action News (@41actionnews) April 3, 2020

That comes probably a day late and a dollar short.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

It's a miracle

BREAKING: Missouri Gov. Parson issues statewide stay-at-home order https://t.co/GBbIuxTXW6

— 41 Action News (@41actionnews) April 3, 2020

A little late to the party eh?

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

It's a miracle

BREAKING: Missouri Gov. Parson issues statewide stay-at-home order https://t.co/GBbIuxTXW6

— 41 Action News (@41actionnews) April 3, 2020

This guy is the biggest waste of oxygen to ever grace the state....way to go leader...way too ****ing late.

Is anything going to change? Doubt it.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Governor Abbott ordered a stay at home, the streets and businesses are just as normal.

LOL.

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

Governor Abbott ordered a stay at home, the streets and businesses are just as normal.

LOL.

Exactly, nothing is going to change.

Nothing will change barring like martial law....

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Jerm

Exactly, nothing is going to change.

Nothing will change barring like martial law....

And I don't think that will ever happen..

[TLO]

Originally Posted by TLO

I bet it happens at the press conference tonight. People still have to take the personal responsibility and follow the order though.

Bingo

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by TLO

And I don't think that will ever happen..

Agreed but it'd seriously be the only way people would listen as sad as it is.

Parsons was way too late, why would people suddenly change now because he declared it?

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by Jerm

This guy is the biggest waste of oxygen to ever grace the state....way to go leader...way too ****ing late.

Is anything going to change? Doubt it.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Jerm

Agreed but it'd seriously be the only way people would listen as sad as it is.

Parsons was way too late, why would people suddenly change now because he declared it?

All the major metro areas around the state (well the majority of them at least) already had the order in place. Sure now the rest of the state has a strongly worded message to stay home, but is it really gonna matter?

He may have been late putting the order in place but I doubt it makes a significant difference one way or the other.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Jerm

Agreed but it'd seriously be the only way people would listen as sad as it is.

Parsons was way too late, why would people suddenly change now because he declared it?

All the major metro areas around the state (well the majority of them at least) already had the order in place. Sure now the rest of the state has a strongly worded message to stay home, but is it really gonna matter?

He may have been late putting the order in place but I doubt it makes a significant difference one way or the other.