Cardinals ***Offical 2010 STL Cardinals Baseball Thread *** - Page 109

**BigRedChief** · 01-05-2010, 09:39 PM

Holliday signs. The Deal is Done. $120 Million over 7 years.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...=.jsp&c_id=stl

Signed or controlled for the next 2 years

Shumaker 2B
Rasmus CF
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Ludwick RF
Molina C
Freese 3B
Ryan SS
And 2 CY Young caliber starting pitchers
Carp and Wainwright P

We get Lohse or Garcia to step up and be a reliable 3rd starter in the playoffs we can win a World Series with this line up.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-05-2010, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

La Russa has always been a guy who can get the most out of marginal players b/c he gives them ABs and puts them in advantageous positions.

But that same style ****s his better players (who aren't the elite of the elite), because they often can't get into any kind of a rhythm.

That's one of the reasons why his teams often underachieve in the playoffs historically.

And really, if it weren't for Duncan, he'd be considered far less favorably than he already is.

Duncan: La Russa
Belichick: Parcells

Couldn't agree more.

I don't know how many times in the past 15 years that the local TV sports report or the PD game recap has started with the phrase, "Tony LaRussa trotted out his (insert ridiculously high number here) different lineup for the Redbirds tonight..." but if I had a dollar each time, I'd be ****ing rich.

Like I said earlier, it just seems as if he goes out of his way to outsmart himself. In the past he's gotten away from it. This year, not so much.

Frazod · 07-05-2010, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Couldn't agree more.

I don't know how many times in the past 15 years that the local TV sports report or the PD game recap has started with the phrase, "Tony LaRussa trotted out his (insert ridiculously high number here) different lineup for the Redbirds tonight..." but if I had a dollar each time, I'd be ****ing rich.

Like I said earlier, it just seems as if he goes out of his way to outsmart himself. In the past he's gotten away from it. This year, not so much.

He's baseball's George Lucas.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-05-2010, 10:27 PM

Getting all of the ability out of a bench player means nothing if you only get 80% out of guys like Rasmus and Ludwick. It is a ****ing reeruned strategy.

I have no problem with playing the hot hand at second and short, because we don't have guys there who are viable everyday starters. But our outfield should be absolutely set, barring rest days. None of those guys should ever sit for situational matchups....ever.

Miles · 07-05-2010, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Getting all of the ability out of a bench player means nothing if you only get 80% out of guys like Rasmus and Ludwick. It is a ****ing reeruned strategy.

I have no problem with playing the hot hand at second and short, because we don't have guys there who are viable everyday starters. But our outfield should be absolutely set, barring rest days. None of those guys should ever sit for situational matchups....ever.

With Luwick's reverse split it isn't that crazy to bench either Rasmus or him vs lefties. Before he went on the DL, Luwick IMO was the one that should have been on the bench vs lefties.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-05-2010, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Miles

With Luwick's reverse split it isn't that crazy to bench either Rasmus or him vs lefties. Before he went on the DL, Luwick IMO was the one that should have been on the bench vs lefties.

Ludwick isn't a world-beater against LHP, but no one on the team is, and I'd still rather have him and his GG caliber D out there than other alternatives.

I know Stavinoha has good splits against LHP, but it's a very small sample size. To me, he should get a start to spell a corner OF, and Winn should get one to rest another OF, but not more than one Monday, Thursday, or Sunday (your typical rest days).

Frazod · 07-06-2010, 10:18 PM

Our useless one who sucks the penis of a supposed closer is in the process of blowing a six run lead in the bottom of the 9th. Now down by 2, the Rockies have a runner on second with one out.

**** YOU FRANKLIN YOU PIECE OF SHIT

Frazod · 07-06-2010, 10:23 PM

Now 9-8, runner on 1st, two outs. Jesus Christ.

**TrebMaxx** · 07-06-2010, 10:25 PM

9-9, JFC!

Frazod · 07-06-2010, 10:25 PM

Now tied. I can't watch anymore. Epic choke job of the ****ing year. Disgusting and inexcusable.

**TrebMaxx** · 07-06-2010, 10:29 PM

Game over. What a choke job.

Miles · 07-06-2010, 10:32 PM

That was brutal. 9 ****ing runs given up in the bottom of the 9th.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-06-2010, 10:35 PM

Holy shit...

Frazod · 07-06-2010, 10:36 PM

I want that mother****er DEAD.

Sure-Oz · 07-06-2010, 10:36 PM

Frazod · 07-06-2010, 10:39 PM

And hats off to our brain dead ****ing reerun of the year idiot ass cocksucking manager for leaving him in when it was OBVIOUS TO EVERYBODY IN THE ****ING WORLD what was going to happen.

Congratulations to the Cincinnati Reds, your 2010 NL Central Division Champions. I think you can close the book on these ****ing dildos.

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07-05-2010, 10:27 PM	#1623
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7129572	Getting all of the ability out of a bench player means nothing if you only get 80% out of guys like Rasmus and Ludwick. It is a ****ing reeruned strategy. I have no problem with playing the hot hand at second and short, because we don't have guys there who are viable everyday starters. But our outfield should be absolutely set, barring rest days. None of those guys should ever sit for situational matchups....ever. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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07-06-2010, 10:18 PM	#1626
Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-886615	Our useless one who sucks the penis of a supposed closer is in the process of blowing a six run lead in the bottom of the 9th. Now down by 2, the Rockies have a runner on second with one out. **** YOU FRANKLIN YOU PIECE OF SHIT
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07-06-2010, 10:23 PM	#1627
Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-886615	Now 9-8, runner on 1st, two outs. Jesus Christ.
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07-06-2010, 10:25 PM	#1629
Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-886615	Now tied. I can't watch anymore. Epic choke job of the ****ing year. Disgusting and inexcusable.
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TrebMaxx Supporter Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Peoples Republic of CoMo Casino cash: $-2522748	Game over. What a choke job. __________________
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07-06-2010, 10:32 PM	#1631
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07-06-2010, 10:35 PM	#1632
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7129572	Holy shit... __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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07-06-2010, 10:36 PM	#1633
Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-886615	I want that mother****er DEAD.
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07-06-2010, 10:39 PM	#1635
Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-886615	And hats off to our brain dead **ing reerun of the year idiot ass cocksucking manager for leaving him in when it was OBVIOUS TO EVERYBODY IN THE ING WORLD what was going to happen. Congratulations to the Cincinnati Reds, your 2010 NL Central Division Champions. I think you can close the book on these **ing dildos.
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