***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

When was the trade show? Does he still have it?

Trade show (Con Expo) was a few weeks ago, I don’t remember the exact dates. We made him self-quarantine when he returned and he started running a fever. He was tested for influenza and tested negative so he was then tested for Covid-19. He tested positive and has been home since. I talked to him yesterday and he’s doing fine. He felt sick for about 7 days, but it was never too bad.

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by DaFace

That's...not likely.

Which one?

The doctor bringing it to a small town is a fact, not an opinion.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Well, I get to stand in front of 503 employees on Monday morning and tell them that even though we were identified as an essential business that they are all being furloughed due to our countries dumbass response to this virus. I hope to be able to bring each and everyone of them back after the world pulls its head out of its ass.

Not more than 10 people at a time. So I assume you are giving the same speech 51 times.
I hate it for the employees. Our response was bad. It would have been better if we would have had a Pandemic response team. We are doing the best we can in trying to play catch up at this point. We should be doing more with strong restrictions.
And per you post a couple of days ago people have been arrested for improper behavior when it comes to Covid-19.
You sure are full of you and not about the people.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by ghak99

Which one?

The doctor bringing it to a small town is a fact, not an opinion.

It's incredibly unlikely that we'll be in this level of lockdown for a year.

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by DaFace

It's incredibly unlikely that we'll be in this level of lockdown for a year.

Sure, which means those workers are going to get it one way or another and roll the dice on the odds. Be it April or September.

Essential employees shouldn't be able to overwhelm the health care system if the rest of the population is doing their part and staying home. That "if" is probably the actual problem.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaFace

It's incredibly unlikely that we'll be in this level of lockdown for a year.

I'm telling you now, 60 days is going to be about all people are going to be able to take before she gets really nuts.

[petegz28]

Seriously, someone needs to lock the entire states of NY and NJ down Chinese style and some cleaning crews need to go in their and literally fog everything. How in the **** do you get 11,000 cases a ****ing day? I mean NY alone is about ready to pass the entire country of Italy.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

If the odds are that at least one of them would die even after we shut down, yes.

We already had rules in place for social distancing at work and stringent cleaning every 2 hours. The one engineer that works for me that has it caught it in Vegas at a trade show.

When was the trade show? Does he still have it?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

China has a seat on human rights Council. Lmao.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/china-...virus-response

Part of this entire ordeal is coming back on the head of the WHO who is allegedly pretty tight with the Chinese President. On the topic of your link though, the UN is a ****ing joke.

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

When was the trade show? Does he still have it?

See the post six above yours.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Part of this entire ordeal is coming back on the head of the WHO who is allegedly pretty tight with the Chinese President. On the topic of your link though, the UN is a ****ing joke.

UN is definitely a joke I agree. It doesn't work. Gives China and Russia too much power which allows them to veto sanctions against evil regimes like North Korea.

I don't want to get political though my bad.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Seriously, someone needs to lock the entire states of NY and NJ down Chinese style and some cleaning crews need to go in their and literally fog everything. How in the **** do you get 11,000 cases a ****ing day? I mean NY alone is about ready to pass the entire country of Italy.

Read 2 or 3 pages of this thread. You should have your answer.

[Donger]

What's wrong with the WHO?

[SAUTO]

So if you are on stay at home you can go for a run but they don’t want you going for a drive...


Seems idiotic.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

So if you are on stay at home you can go for a run but they don’t want you going for a drive...


Seems idiotic.

Is that in Missouri?