Bishop and Leach

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by Maverick91579

I wouldn't take too much of what you know from seeing a guy play for the Cardinals. A fb especially. When your oline is as terrible as that one is, how in the hell or what kind of difference would a fullback really make. He can only block so many guys.

That's valid, though I still think he stinks

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

That's valid, though I still think he stinks

How many Cardinals games did you watch last year in their entirety?

[Mav]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

That's valid, though I still think he stinks

And you could be right. I didn't even know who the hell the guy was. lol. I was just trying to play devils advocate.

[Dante84]

I'm a Wildcat homer, but Willson was a beast for us.

I'm excited to see what he can do at the next level.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 10m

What's the latest on former #Packers LB Desmond Bishop? Still deciding between #Vikings, #Chiefs, and #Giants. Stay tuned...


Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 1m

They were not mentioned to me. Sounds like just those 3 for Bishop RT @TIP_Parker: @RapSheet jaguars still in mix?

[penbrook]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 10m

What's the latest on former #Packers LB Desmond Bishop? Still deciding between #Vikings, #Chiefs, and #Giants. Stay tuned...


Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 1m

They were not mentioned to me. Sounds like just those 3 for Bishop RT @TIP_Parker: @RapSheet jaguars still in mix?

He seems really interested in the Giants.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by penbook

He seems really interested in the Giants.

Or he's interested in getting a 2nd year and developing some type of bidding for his services.

[The Bad Guy]

John Clayton just said there are 2 other teams in on Leach besides Houston and Miami. Don't know if KC is one of them.

[penbrook]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

John Clayton just said there are 2 other teams in on Leach besides Houston and Miami. Don't know if KC is one of them.

He's gonna go to Houston. That's been his first choice.

[Dante84]

*boners crossed*

[milkman]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Leach is 32 years old and was cut by the Super Bowl winning Ravens. Ozzie's not prone to mistakes in personal decisions.

I know that people love fullbacks around here, but I don't think the dropoff between Leach and whomever else would win the starting fullback job would be as great as Bishop (29 years old) that position's starter (Jordan or Johnson).

I don't give a rip about positions, except how they fit into a system.

If we hired josh McDumbass to coach this team, then Leach would not interest me.

But Reid's offense utiilizes the fullback as a weapon in the passing game, and his offense is most effective when he has a quality player at that position.

Top tier fullbacks play well into their 30s.

Tony Richardson and Lorenzo Neal were still playing at All Pro levels when they were 35-36 years old.

Originally Posted by Dante84

*boners crossed*

You're a sword crosser?

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by milkman

I don't give a rip about positions, except how they fit into a system.

If we hired josh McDumbass to coach this team, then Leach would not interest me.

But Reid's offense utiilizes the fullback as a weapon in the passing game, and his offense is most effective when he has a quality player at that position.

Top tier fullbacks play well into their 30s.

Tony Richardson and Lorenzo Neal were still playing at All Pro levels when they were 35-36 years old.

On that I agree.

But given a a pro-bowl-quality ILB or a probowl FB I'll go ILB every time...

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by milkman

I don't give a rip about positions, except how they fit into a system.

If we hired josh McDumbass to coach this team, then Leach would not interest me.

But Reid's offense utiilizes the fullback as a weapon in the passing game, and his offense is most effective when he has a quality player at that position.

Top tier fullbacks play well into their 30s.

Tony Richardson and Lorenzo Neal were still playing at All Pro levels when they were 35-36 years old.

All things being equal, I'd rather have Bishop than Leach if it came down to one or the other.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

All things being equal, I'd rather have Bishop than Leach if it came down to one or the other.

This...

[milkman]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

All things being equal, I'd rather have Bishop than Leach if it came down to one or the other.

The defense is going to sink or swim on the performance of the D-Line, and how Sean Smith fits at corner (since I don't believe that Dunta Robinson can recapture his Texan days).

While having one of the best LB corps in the league if we added Bishop, when compared to how valuable a weapon as receiver in Reid's offense, especially with a limited QB like Smith, Leach would be, I just can't value Bishop over Leach.