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Old 11-23-2019, 05:40 PM   #1
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Is that true? I had a Chevy Volt and it was exceptional in cold weather, both for running well and for driving in snow and ice. Is that something for which Chevy was just more successful than other electric manufacturers?
No. It's the inherent nature of liquid battery cells. Operate best in the low 70's.

I'm not sure that will be an issue for the truck as I'm not sure they plan on using either the 18650 or 2170 cell architectures and seem to be on the verge of commercializing their own solid state batteries, which the cold wouldn't affect nearly as much.

The beauty is that even if it is an issue, with the 500+ like range, you'll still get 400+ miles per charge and recharge should be even faster than the Model 3 with all that battery to take the charge.

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Old 11-22-2019, 02:50 PM   #2
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Old 11-22-2019, 03:01 PM   #3
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Batteries don’t work as well in the cold, it really just shortens the distance they can go on a charge a little. It also affected your Volt, but with the gas aspect you might not have noticed.
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Old 11-22-2019, 03:10 PM   #4
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Batteries don’t work as well in the cold, it really just shortens the distance they can go on a charge a little. It also affected your Volt, but with the gas aspect you might not have noticed.
I never had that issue at all, but maybe because it was garaged while not operating it never started out cold. Never used the gas except on road trips. It would occasionally run the gas engine itself with a message that said it had gone too long without running. Good to know though for when I do buy my electric apocalyptic bug out vehicle!
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Old 11-22-2019, 03:19 PM   #5
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Batteries don’t work as well in the cold, it really just shortens the distance they can go on a charge a little. It also affected your Volt, but with the gas aspect you might not have noticed.
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Old 11-22-2019, 03:53 PM   #6
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Old 11-22-2019, 04:17 PM   #7
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If he produced an electric GMC 1500 SLT with 500 mile range, I'm there too. But I might wait for them to put a different body on it.
Eh, I'm not huge on the 19 bodies, so whatever. I don't really care about how "cool" things are. I'm very much a value guy. Factors that affect my value calculation:

1. Reliability - Fat boy doesn't do downtime. Especially during the busy season.

2. Functionality - Speaks for itself. I have a toolbox, a set of drawers in the cab, and a compressor. I'm to the point where I really can't do without any of it.

3. Maintenance - I do enough maintenance on machines that actually make me money. I'm not jumping up and down to do more.

4. Cost per mile - both on operation and trade
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Old 11-23-2019, 06:03 PM   #8
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Eh, I'm not huge on the 19 bodies, so whatever. I don't really care about how "cool" things are. I'm very much a value guy. Factors that affect my value calculation:



1. Reliability - Fat boy doesn't do downtime. Especially during the busy season.



2. Functionality - Speaks for itself. I have a toolbox, a set of drawers in the cab, and a compressor. I'm to the point where I really can't do without any of it.



3. Maintenance - I do enough maintenance on machines that actually make me money. I'm not jumping up and down to do more.



4. Cost per mile - both on operation and trade
1. It's an electric vehicle so it's defacto more reliable than any trick you can buy. No belts, pulleys, transmission, oils/fluids, spark plugs etc.

Just battery and motor. As long as you have good connection and no pieces of metal stabbed through the battery, you should be good.

2. Shouldn't need a toolbox aside from the organization aspect of it all as the tonneau bed cover is aluminum and you can walk all over it. Your stuff should be secure just in the bed.

It's also got built-in 110/220v outlets and air compressor utility ports from the dynamically adjustable air suspension.

3.Windshield wiper blades and tires. Maybe some grease for the suspension. Only other things would be the glycol or whatever they run through the thermal management system but they generally take care of that at this point.

Model 3 recommended maintenance schedule is every 2 years for reference.

4. It's a 2500 for $40k.

3500lb payload
14,000lb towing
16 inch ground clearance(4 inch adjustable)
Probably near limitless torque etc

Maintenance is essentially 0, and $18-$24 to get your full 500 miles of range.

There's literally no economic case against it.

There is though, a lot of "it's not a real truck" bs floating in here but so far the only legitimate complaint I hear is "you can't sit on slanted bed rails".

Honestly, what couldn't this truck do? If anything, this is more capable than a 2500 with unknown utility yet to be add through software updates.

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Old 11-22-2019, 05:11 PM   #9
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Old 11-22-2019, 05:25 PM   #10
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Branding.
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Old 11-23-2019, 06:32 PM   #11
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Branding.
Obviously there's the cyberpunk aesthetic, but I'm pretty sure the target customer for the Cybertruck uses the Tesla Network.

Pretty sure the truck was built for the network:

Stainless steel exterior that won't show dents and scraped paint of the fleet. Will basically last forever.

Wire wheel cleans anything.

All the important stuff is a part of the skateboard anyway. Which is about as unbelievably robust as cellphones sometimes are. So if the battery or drivetrain goes, just outfit with the latest and greatest skateboard. Body is fine. Stainless steel and all.

Has large comfortable seats for 6 large adults with front and center 17" media hub with Netflix, Hulu, YouTube, videogames etc etc

They call the bed "the vault", a lockable aluminum rollup security door that a guy can jump on.

Lockable frunk

Lockable bed rail storage

The thing is built to solve for a lot of problems. 6.5" x 4.5" bed, frunk etc, all the lockable storage plus uber xl, black level bullet proof passenger compartment. If made autonomous can make money on fairs all day and drop packages while in the vicinity of the recipient at literally any location.

It greatly increases the value of each mile driven while substantially reducing cost to operate. It's a logistics machine, I love it.

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Old 11-22-2019, 05:46 PM   #12
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what makes it a truck?
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Old 11-22-2019, 06:09 PM   #13
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What makes it cyber?
Uh, the character of the truck is that is all electric from the batteries, servos, motors that are on every level of the vehicle from propulsion and steering to the gauge cluster and entertainment all of which is controlled by at least one computer making millions of decisions every second.
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Built-in bluetooth. Jut like my current truck..
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