Nick Foles News

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

I dont think theyll trade a high pick for either Foles or Smith.

2006 Garcia revived his career under Reid.

2009 Kolb had a career year.

2010 Vick was a league MVP candidate

Its an important distinction to point out. Reid didn't draft some 6th round guy and get lucky. The guy knows QB's

Yeah, it is exciting.

Although, his best QB came from early in the first round.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

There is no other option. Draft a f'in QB. What did this fanbase do to deserve not even trying to upgrade the game's most important position the right way?

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Can you really say that?

Somebody posted it the other day.

If you take Donovan McNabb out of the mix, Reid's QB track record is pretty pedestrian.

Yeah, he's good at making mediocre guys look decent.

But outside of McNabb, he really hasn't coached a GREAT QB.

Its important to point out the fundamental difference between Reid and Pioli. Reid developed guys while Pioli literally laughed off the idea of ever drafting a QB.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

Its important to point out the fundamental difference between Reid and *****. Reid developed guys while ***** literally laughed off the idea of ever drafting a QB.

Outside of Donovan McNabb, Andy Reid has produced the same number of franchise QBs that Scott Pioli has - zero.

I am ABSOLUTELY an Andy Reid fan. But he's just not this mythical QB whisperer. He just isn't. He's never had a dumpster fire under center. But he's never turned chicken shit into chicken salad.

He's been SOLID for his entire career. But the only time he's been GREAT is when he took the QB #2 overall.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Outside of Donovan McNabb, Andy Reid has produced the same number of franchise QBs that Scott Pioli has - zero.

I am ABSOLUTELY an Andy Reid fan. But he's just not this mythical QB whisperer. He just isn't. He's never had a dumpster fire under center. But he's never turned chicken shit into chicken salad.

He's been SOLID for his entire career. But the only time he's been GREAT is when he took the QB #2 overall.

but...but...but....yeah this.
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[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Outside of Donovan McNabb, Andy Reid has produced the same number of franchise QBs that Scott ***** has - zero.

I am ABSOLUTELY an Andy Reid fan. But he's just not this mythical QB whisperer. He just isn't. He's never had a dumpster fire under center. But he's never turned chicken shit into chicken salad.

He's been SOLID for his entire career. But the only time he's been GREAT is when he took the QB #2 overall.

McNabb was his guy for a number of years the jury is still out on Foles and Vick was an MVP candidate under Reid. Garcia threw for 10 td's 2 picks and won the division when many thought he was washed up.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

McNabb was his guy for a number of years the jury is still out on Foles and Vick was an MVP candidate under Reid. Garcia threw for 10 td's 2 picks and won the division when many thought he was washed up.

Vick was a #1 pick.

If you take him out, look at those numbers.

It's pretty bad really.

[BradBigglestein]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Outside of Donovan McNabb, Andy Reid has produced the same number of franchise QBs that Scott ***** has - zero.

I am ABSOLUTELY an Andy Reid fan. But he's just not this mythical QB whisperer. He just isn't. He's never had a dumpster fire under center. But he's never turned chicken shit into chicken salad.

He's been SOLID for his entire career. But the only time he's been GREAT is when he took the QB #2 overall.

He isn't the QB guru people say he is when they go overboard. He did get more out of AJ Feeley than anyone else did. He did resurrect Jeff Garcia's career when it looked dead after Detroit and Cleveland. Donovan McNabb was clearly on the down trend, but when he left Andy Reid's tutelage, he totally fell into oblivion in DC and Minnesota. He also was responsible for Michael Vick having the best passing season of his career. I don't know if he will turn garbage into gold, but I don't know of many that do. I don't think any coach can with a terrible QB.

From a limited look at Nick Foles, here is my initial scouting report:

Pros:

-It seems hard to phase him. He doesn't seem to get rattled no matter how many times he gets hit. He shows poise and it pretty mature.

-Pretty accurate. Had some mistakes here and there, but you got a sense he had good touch on the ball and was good at putting it where only the receiver could get it.

-Smart. Started in a very bad situation and was able to handle the offense. Knows when to audible out of plays in key spots. Seems to grasp the flow of the game, and NFL defenses.

Cons:

-Can stare down receivers giving away his target. A lot of young QBs do this though.

-Had trouble planting his feet on deep passes, causing him to underthrow them at times. Lets the ball out a little early.

-Immobile

-Sometimes forced throws into coverage when he shouldn't have.


I don't think I saw enough of him to tell this board whether or not he's going to be a player. I'd be lying. I haven't seen enough yet. Did I look at Nick Foles this past season and think "Man, this guy is going to be special"? No. I also didn't look at him and say he's going to suck either. If I'm KC, I personally would not give up a 3rd for Foles, but if Andy Reid likes him that much, I guess he needs to go with his guy. We'll see how it all plays out.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by BradBigglestein

He isn't the QB guru people say he is when they go overboard. He did get more out of AJ Feeley than anyone else did. He did resurrect Jeff Garcia's career when it looked dead after Detroit and Cleveland. Donovan McNabb was clearly on the down trend, but when he left Andy Reid's tutelage, he totally fell into oblivion in DC and Minnesota. He also was responsible for Michael Vick having the best passing season of his career. I don't know if he will turn garbage into gold, but I don't know of many that do. I don't think any coach can with a terrible QB.

From a limited look at Nick Foles, here is my initial scouting report:

Pros:

-It seems hard to phase him. He doesn't seem to get rattled no matter how many times he gets hit. He shows poise and it pretty mature.

-Pretty accurate. Had some mistakes here and there, but you got a sense he had good touch on the ball and was good at putting it where only the receiver could get it.

-Smart. Started in a very bad situation and was able to handle the offense. Knows when to audible out of plays in key spots. Seems to grasp the flow of the game, and NFL defenses.

Cons:

-Can stare down receivers giving away his target. A lot of young QBs do this though.

-Had trouble planting his feet on deep passes, causing him to underthrow them at times. Lets the ball out a little early.

-Immobile

-Sometimes forced throws into coverage when he shouldn't have.


I don't think I saw enough of him to tell this board whether or not he's going to be a player. I'd be lying. I haven't seen enough yet. Did I look at Nick Foles this past season and think "Man, this guy is going to be special"? No. I also didn't look at him and say he's going to suck either. If I'm KC, I personally would not give up a 3rd for Foles, but if Andy Reid likes him that much, I guess he needs to go with his guy. We'll see how it all plays out.

Good post. I have enjoyed your posts on Andy since you come off pretty level-headed. It's only one opinion but it's better than no perspective at all.

[BradBigglestein]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

Good post. I have enjoyed your posts on Andy since you come off pretty level-headed. It's only one opinion but it's better than no perspective at all.

Thanks.

We really don't know what is going on in Philly yet either. Chip Kelly says he likes Nick Foles a lot to the media, but some people that cover the team believe it is a front for leverage in trade talks. So Eagles fans are in the dark as much as Chiefs fans about the whole Nick Foles situation.

If a trade goes down, I doubt it happens after the draft. So I think we'll have our answer in a couple months at the latest.

[CaliforniaChief]

I almost drove off the road Friday afternoon while listening to Fox Sports Radio. That ex-Raiders DB Steve Hartman actually said that the 49'ers "might be willing to part with Alex Smith" for the Chiefs' first round pick.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

I almost drove off the road Friday afternoon while listening to Fox Sports Radio. That ex-Raiders DB Steve Hartman actually said that the 49'ers "might be willing to part with Alex Smith" for the Chiefs' first round pick.

Raiders players are legally reeruned

[BossChief]

Reid flipped AJ Feeley for a second.

Reid Flipped Kolb for a second round pick and a first round cornerback.

Reid got Mike Vick to play at a crazy level in 2011.

Nick Foles threw for 1700 yards in 6 starts under Reid, as a rookie.

Twice, he has identified and drafted what turned out to be the best QB of his class.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Reid flipped AJ Feeley for a second.

Reid Flipped Kolb for a second round pick and a first round cornerback.

Reid got Mike Vick to play at a crazy level in 2011.

Nick Foles threw for 1700 yards in 6 starts under Reid, as a rookie.

Twice, he has identified and drafted what turned out to be the best QB of his class.

Thats great and all.


But I'm not real interested in finding a guy he can get to play ok so we can flip him for picks.

I want the guy he can get to play elite and win games.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by O.city

Thats great and all.


But I'm not real interested in finding a guy he can get to play ok so we can flip him for picks.

I want the guy he can get to play elite and win games.

And if Reid says, he's not in this draft?