The Hemp Thread.

[teedubya]

It is amazing what this plant can do. Im a Christian at heart, and believe that God gave us this bad ass plant to help us out.

* the first Bibles were printed on hemp paper
* the first US flag was made out of hemp
* the US Constitution and Declaration of Independence were printed on hemp paper.
* an acre of hemp produces more than 4 times the amount of paper than an acre of trees, and it grows back in less than a year
* Henry Ford made a hemp-mobile
* "Marijuana" is just the Hispanic name for hemp, they are the exact same plant. (The name, "marijuana", was used by law enforcement and the media for this "Mexican killer weed" to taboo and sensationalize it in concerned American's minds.)
* Birds live 20% longer when hemp seed is a part of their diet
* Hemp seed oil has been used (and should be used) in everything from engine oil and paint, to cosmetics and foods for man and beast alike
* In the 1600s, there were places in the US where growing hemp was enforced by law
* You could pay your taxes with hemp for 200 years during the 1700s in the US
* Hemp seeds have been a staple and a life-saver during many famines and food shortages throughout history (over 60% of Third World children are dying everyday because of protein starvation , but Mr. Government says they can't grow it - it's against the law!)
* There are receptors in the brain which science has found will bind with THC compounds alone, and no other
* The depletion of the ozone layer threatens to reduce soy crops by up to 50%, but hemp is immune to the damages of ultraviolet light (it actually makes it produce more of the resin that contains the THC)
* Hemp is a more prolific producer of ethanol than corn
* Hemp requires little to no industry, it grows in the ground (cleaning the soil of toxins), then is cut, dried, and utilized... (Does it make any sense that the government doesn't jump on this, legalize it and tax the pants off of it instead of increasing everyone’s already-insane taxes to reduce the country's deficit?? Tax pot!)
* Buddha lived on ONE hemp seed a day for over 5 years.
* And apparently if you set it on fire and inhale the smoke of it, it gives you a euphoric feeling.

"And God said, Behold, I have given you every green herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."
-Genesis 1:29 -

"Prohibition goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes."
-Abe Lincoln, 1840

[Boozer]

Originally Posted by Boozer

The U.S. Supreme Court is hearing a case this term involving a woman convited of a federal crime for growing pot in her backyard for personal use (or something like that). Based on recent Commerce Clause decisions, it's likely that they'll reverse the conviction (unless Wickard v. Filburn makes a triumphant return from the grave). Of course, such a decision wouldn't make all drug prosecutions state matters, but it is a step towards decentralization.

The case is Ashcroft v. Raich, and it's set for oral argument next Monday.

[Inspector]

Originally Posted by CosmicPal

Prisons are a money making operation from the construction of the buildings all the way down to the inmates being telemarketers.

3/4 of the current prison population is there for mandatory minimum sentencing- which is predominately fueled by non-violent crimes such as the selling/use of marijuana. If the states all of a sudden legalized marijuana- all of these inmates would then be released- no more sales calls or soap making or license plates. They would have to be done by rapists and murderers- who are unsafe for prisons, much less society.

Yep, right you are!!

My wife didn't vote in the last election. Then she started whining about that elderly couple getting murdered.

I told her since she didn't vote (for Badnarik) she was supporting the system that makes it possible for violent criminals to get out to do more violence.

I was just having some fun, joking around with her, but I truly believe there is some truth to that conjecture. If you support MJ being illegal, you are supporting the early release of bad people who want to hurt your family.

I've always wanted my crime fighting dollars to be spent on locking up people who would hurt myself or members of my family. Heck, I'd support locking up anyone who would hurt your family too. I DO NOT support my crime fighting dollars being spent on locking up prisoners of war. Especially those who have never and would never hurt another human being or another human being's property.

Why is this so difficult for some people to understand? Could it be they are making some money from it being illegal???? Or maybe they are somewhat ignorant???

Hmmm...makes me wonder.

[chiefs4me]

Originally Posted by Skip Towne

Not that I know of. They might catch me in my van though as I'm bringing it home.

[Hydrae]

Originally Posted by Boozer

The case is Ashcroft v. Raich, and it's set for oral argument next Monday.

Interesting stuff. I had to google that case but that is screwed up! I find it interesting how Ashcroft was able to turn the case around from it originally being Raich vs Ashcroft to where he is now the plaintiff.

Thanks for the info!

[Boozer]

Originally Posted by Hydrae

Interesting stuff. I had to google that case but that is screwed up! I find it interesting how Ashcroft was able to turn the case around from it originally being Raich vs Ahscroft to where he is now the plaintiff.

Thanks for the info!

Eh, that's just how the U.S. Supreme Court (and some state appellate courts) works. Generally, the appealing party, whether he was the original plaintiff or not, is listed first. For example, it was Bush v. Gore because Bush lost at the Florida Supreme Court and appealed (I don't know whether Gore sued first or not).

[ChiefFripp]

Legalize it, tax it and make the age for legal usage 25 and on. Too many good things can come from this plant and the bad things are happening anyways. My guess is the federal goverment just likes fueling the prisons to justify their heavy spending on them when we don't really need most of them.

I love law enforcement officers, they will hound you like hell for minor things like what's in your yard but if someone breaks into your house they'll show up and say "what do you really expect us to do about it?" then maybe if you're lucky they'll drive around your block with a searchlight once. Most cops are jackasses.

[Braincase]

Originally Posted by Boozer

The U.S. Supreme Court is hearing a case this term involving a woman convited of a federal crime for growing pot in her backyard for personal use (or something like that). Based on recent Commerce Clause decisions, it's likely that they'll reverse the conviction (unless Wickard v. Filburn makes a triumphant return from the grave). Of course, such a decision wouldn't make all drug prosecutions state matters, but it is a step towards decentralization.

You meant decriminalization, right?

[Boozer]

Originally Posted by BrainCase

You meant decriminalization, right?

Actually, both. Decriminalization is easier if drug laws are decentralized. This way, the feds can't step up their prosecutions if a state (say, California) decides to legalize for specific purposes ("medical uses") or decriminalizes.

[Skip Towne]

Originally Posted by ChiefFripp

Legalize it, tax it and make the age for legal usage 25 and on. Too many good things can come from this plant and the bad things are happening anyways. My guess is the federal goverment just likes fueling the prisons to justify their heavy spending on them when we don't really need most of them.

I love law enforcement officers, they will hound you like hell for minor things like what's in your yard but if someone breaks into your house they'll show up and say "what do you really expect us to do about it?" then maybe if you're lucky they'll drive around your block with a searchlight once. Most cops are jackasses.

That there is rep.

[MOhillbilly]

Two things.It aint a crime if you dont get caught. And if you do get poped just remember "YOU PAY TO PLAY"
Pot shouldnt be legal. Its a good way to make cash if you have the balls to mess w/ it. you can go from lower middle class to middle class and move just a little a month to your friends and co-workers.

And if you get busted w/ weed yous a real dumbass. Matter of fact if you get busted at all your a dumbass,so really the prison system is just doing society a favor by gettin tards off the street.

[LABronx]

Originally Posted by SDChiefsfan

That cuts BOTH ways....

Comprede?

Should we compare the credibility of the "propagandists" on the two sides of this issue?

you left out the "n" in comprende.

sorry about that

=+)

[Skip Towne]

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

Two things.It aint a crime if you dont get caught. And if you do get poped just remember "YOU PAY TO PLAY"
Pot shouldnt be legal. Its a good way to make cash if you have the balls to mess w/ it. you can go from lower middle class to middle class and move just a little a month to your friends and co-workers.

And if you get busted w/ weed yous a real dumbass. Matter of fact if you get busted at all your a dumbass,so really the prison system is just doing society a favor by gettin tards off the street.

What about the revenooers?

[teedubya]

as this thread approaches 200.

Have a Happy Tokesgiving tomorrow.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by Ali Chi3fs

as this thread approaches 200.

Have a Happy Tokesgiving tomorrow.

[MOhillbilly]

Originally Posted by Skip Towne

What about the revenooers?

Revenoors is one thing fence walkin smokeys is another.
Im gonna tell this story and i dont really care,its just a story.

Probably the closest i ever came to gettin poped w/ enough shit and doin some real time was around 96-97 i was comin outta swissvilla after the No Doubt show and just got done burnin one and got pulled over by a lawdog,and i FN just knew he could smell it.
So i tell him its a new truck and i hadnt had a chance to get it taged yet ect. and he lets me go no ticket.
Now he had probable cause it had to stink.

So as im pullin off i tell the girl next to me(who was a runaway and hadnt been home in 6 months) that was close cause theres an unregistered & loaded .357 under the seat and a half pound.

That and the time i bit the dudes thumb off.