Are you drug tested at work?

[Skip Towne]

Which drugs do they test for? How often?

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by jspchief

If I had a good employee, I would give him a chance to clean his act up. If he still chooses drugs over his job, then he's not a good employee.

I've been around drugs enough to know that I don't want drug users working for me. Especially if they don't value the job enough to quit doing drugs.

That's where we disagree. As long as somebody is a top performer I could care less what he is doing in his personal life. I liked the way 24 hour fitness used to use their testing. If you were a top performer you never got tested. IF they had any issue with you though out came the test. Like I stated earlier, if they tested everyone they would have lost more than 50% of their top performers. Sales people like to party occasionally and they are a wilder bunch. For the record the last 3 years I worked there I took runner up twice and then left after accomplishing manager of the year for the entire company. I knew what I was doing and could have never performed at that level if I had pissed tested my top guys.

[MOhillbilly]

dope is bad JU JU at work,they dont test here but i wish they did.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by RedNFeisty

Look needle dick; don't start your third grade name calling on me. I made an observation and said it. The truth is that you have been crying like a little pussy and it only got worse when they started the ban on pitt bulls. Grow a sack.

I didn't realize you were such a stupid gunt. I haven't even been on the BB much lately. As far as pit bulls go if you had even read anything I have posted on it you would have realized that I am against BSL because they are going to go after many large breeds with it. There are a lot of people on this BB who have a vested interest in not seeing this kind of legislation passed in this country. You don't like reading about click on another thread and quit bitching at me. It's not my fault Clint can't keep you satisfied bitch at him.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

That's where we disagree. As long as somebody is a top performer I could care less what he is doing in his personal life. I liked the way 24 hour fitness used to use their testing. If you were a top performer you never got tested. IF they had any issue with you though out came the test. Like I stated earlier, if they tested everyone they would have lost more than 50% of their top performers. Sales people like to party occasionally and they are a wilder bunch. For the record the last 3 years I worked there I took runner up twice and then left after accomplishing manager of the year for the entire company. I knew what I was doing and could have never performed at that level if I had pissed tested my top guys.

IMO, if you are committed to your job, you will put it ahead of doing drugs. If you know that you have the choice of either working for me, or smoking dope, and you choose smoking dope, that tells me everything I need to know about your committment level to the job.

It's not like an ambush. You know that the policy is no drugs. After that, the employee has control over whether it keeps him from working for me.

[Skip Towne]

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

dope is bad JU JU at work,they dont test here but i wish they did.

Sure you do.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by jspchief

IMO, if you are committed to your job, you will put it ahead of doing drugs. If you know that you have the choice of either working for me, or smoking dope, and you choose smoking dope, that tells me everything I need to know about your committment level to the job.

It's not like an ambush. You know that the policy is no drugs. After that, the employee has control over whether it keeps him from working for me.

I agree......... well said.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by jspchief

IMO, if you are committed to your job, you will put it ahead of doing drugs. If you know that you have the choice of either working for me, or smoking dope, and you choose smoking dope, that tells me everything I need to know about your committment level to the job.

It's not like an ambush. You know that the policy is no drugs. After that, the employee has control over whether it keeps him from working for me.

It's your business you can do what you want I was just stating what my experience has been. What do you do anyway?

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by jspchief

I speed most of the time.

Now it's my turn. Would you rather find out your kid speeds or smokes pot?

Hmm, I suppose that depends on how much speed amongst other details. Also, smokes a little MJ recreationally and nothing else and I couldn't say much. That's the way I was when I was a teen. Although I did drink, too.

[RedNFeisty]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

I didn't realize you were such a stupid ****. I haven't even been on the BB much lately. As far as pit bulls go if you had even read anything I have posted on it you would have realized that I am against BSL because they are going to go after many large breeds with it. There are a lot of people on this BB who have a vested interest in not seeing this kind of legislation passed in this country. You don't like reading about click on another thread and quit bitching at me. It's not my fault Clint can't keep you satisfied bitch at him.

You may not have been around much lately, but when you have you have been whining and complaining, everything with you lately have to revolve around the legislation and how your freedoms are being ripped from your grasps. If look back through history, every generation has had the same complaints. They seem more lifestyle alternating now because you are of age. I wasn't putting you down or trying to insult you. Just stating the obvious and you have to slam me, it is a shame that you have resorted to such acts.

On a side note, it would be really wise of you to keep significant others and sexual pleasure out of the discussion. To swap life stories would only humiliate you.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Skip Towne

I wouldn't hire you. You have proved you are a lawbreaker and are probably not trustworthy.

Ding ding ding, Skip gets it.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

It's your business you can do what you want I was just stating what my experience has been. What do you do anyway?

I own a roofing company.

Most of the opnions I've expressed in this thread would apply to any business I ran though. It's as much based on my philosophy as it is actual implementation.

If a company chooses to turn the other way, that is their perogative. I'm just defending my right to determine my own criteria for hiring.

[Clint in Wichita]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

I didn't realize you were such a stupid gunt. I haven't even been on the BB much lately. As far as pit bulls go if you had even read anything I have posted on it you would have realized that I am against BSL because they are going to go after many large breeds with it. There are a lot of people on this BB who have a vested interest in not seeing this kind of legislation passed in this country. You don't like reading about click on another thread and quit bitching at me. It's not my fault Clint can't keep you satisfied bitch at him.

You are such an idiot. I guess you garner a certain amount of respect from some because you talk about working out all the fuggin time & act like you and your woman are 2 of hottest pieces of ass in the universe.

I'm totally unimpressed. You are just another fuggin dork who lifts just enough to fool others into thinking you know what you're talking about, but it hasn't done a thing for that lump of shit on top of your neck.

I'll leave your woman out of it. You provide plenty of fodder by yourself.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Hmm, I suppose that depends on how much speed amongst other details. Also, smokes a little MJ recreationally and nothing else and I couldn't say much. That's the way I was when I was a teen. Although I did drink, too.

Do you actually have kids? If you do, then I think your opinion is sad.

I did every drug in the book when I was younger, but that doesn't mean I want my child to do any of them.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by jspchief

I'm picking and choosing who I want to hire. Plain and simple. If you want to work for me, don't do drugs. It's that simple.

And that is your right.

Originally Posted by jspchief

I don't think speeding and doing drugs are equal, so it's not a relevant point.

It is a relevant point. Just because something is against the law doesn't necessarily make it wrong, IMO. If you drink any kind of alcohol then you shouldn't have a problem with MJ because, IMO, it's no different. And no, I'm not talking what type of buzz/high or how quickly you get it, etc. One just happens to be legal at the moment and not the other.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by RedNFeisty

You may not have been around much lately, but when you have you have been whining and complaining, everything with you lately have to revolve around the legislation and how your freedoms are being ripped from your grasps. If look back through history, every generation has had the same complaints. They seem more lifestyle alternating now because you are of age. I wasn't putting you down or trying to insult you. Just stating the obvious and you have to slam me, it is a shame that you have resorted to such acts.

On a side note, it would be really wise of you to keep significant others and sexual pleasure out of the discussion. To swap life stories would only humiliate you.

It's the libertarian in me. It's my perspective just like any body else has one. Don't like it go post somewhere else. Bottom line is we have more legislation than ever and we have more people behind bars than ever. That's a fact not an opinion.

As far as your sex life is concerned I am really not interested in hearing about it, just quit bitching at me. Save that for that special someone you ran off the BB.