Christian spirit? - Page 11

**Bob Dole** · 09-08-2005, 10:53 AM

A confrontation this morning between an East Texas church and an evacuee from New Orleans. It centers around a sign out front of Woodland Hills Baptist Church on Old Jacksonville Road in Tyler, about a mile inside the loop. Some say the message is offensive.

"I drove by that sign and was just horrified when I saw that," says Kelly Jackman who now lives in Tyler but used to live in New Orleans.

That sign at Woodland Hills Baptist Church reads ,"The big easy is the modern day Sodom and Gomorrah."

Kelly along with her sister Robin Lafont, an evacuee from New Orleans, showed up this morning at the church to talk to the man who put it up, Pastor Wiley Bennett.

During a heated discussion, Robin asked, "What's the point of the sign out there?" Pastor Bennett replied, "The point of the sign is New Orleans, Las Vegas, San Francisco, and New York City are some of the most wicked cities in America."

Robin, who still has family members unaccounted for in New Orleans, is offended by the sign. "I'm telling you. This hurts. Why would you want to put more hurt, more salt in my wounds and why would you want to do this to me?"

Kelly adds, "And to go by and see this church saying that God did this to destroy these people and basically they're celebrating that by putting that sign up there saying look at what God has done. He has destroyed the city of New Orleans because it is evil."

Pastor Bennett says, "Anybody that's ever visited New Orleans, the very name its self - Big Easy - denotes that it's easy to find sin there."

Pastor Bennett says the sign, is a sign of the times. "The purpose of the sign is to wake American up to the fact that America is going away from God. New York City's 9/11 was a call of judgment and New Orlean's horrible incident was judgment on a wicked city."

Pastor Bennett was quick to point out that the church has helped evacuees by donating clothing, food and lodging, but their good will seems to be overshadowed by the sign.

"I'm not saying that you were evil and didn't have good intentions but it is hurtful. It's extremely hurt full. That's all I'm saying. I'm asking you to take it down," pleaded Robin.

"If I was doing it to hurt people I would take it down, but I'm not doing it to hurt people. I'm doing it to point out the sins of America," said Bennett.

Even after the sisters left the church, the confrontation continued in the parking lot. Kelly said, "That sign also says a lot about your character and your integrity and it's nothing good I assure you."

"They both called me an ungodly person with bad character and all that, and that's their right, but I have people that would say differently," Bennett told us.

Finally, the confrontation came to an end, but with no resolution. Robin tried one last time, "I'm asking you to take it down." Bennett said, "We can not go any further so we may as well go." Robin said, "That's fine. I need to go."

Robin and Kelly say they are going to spread the word of opposition to the sign and encourage people to contact the church. They hope the church will eventually take it down.

Since the sign went up, many KLTV viewers have e-mailed us with their comments. Wednesday night, a viewer named Tammy told us:

"Encouragement is needed, not more salt in the wounds... How could anyone see that sign as appropriate or bearing witness for Christ?"

We were at Woodland Hills as they prepared for Wednesday Night services.

They say earlier in the day, they were deluged with phone calls from people urging them to take the sign down.

But they say after our report, the response has been 100 percent positive. They began their service with a prayer for the people of New Orleans and Mississippi, and we spoke with many members including these who say they support the message on the sign.

Betty George has been a member for 23 years.

"Our pastor has a strong stand on the Bible and he preaches God's word, and he has compassion for America and the souls of America."

Randy Hays joined Woodland Hills in 1999.

"All our pastor was trying to say is that America is pulling away from God, and He wants America to realize that."

Pastor Bennett told us once again he has no plans to take down the sign right now, despite outcry from the community.

Gillian Sheridan reporting. [email protected]

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Mr. Laz · 09-08-2005, 03:54 PM

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memyselfI · 09-08-2005, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

A confrontation this morning between an East Texas church and an evacuee from New Orleans. It centers around a sign out front of Woodland Hills Baptist Church on Old Jacksonville Road in Tyler, about a mile inside the loop. Some say the message is offensive.

"I drove by that sign and was just horrified when I saw that," says Kelly Jackman who now lives in Tyler but used to live in New Orleans.

That sign at Woodland Hills Baptist Church reads ,"The big easy is the modern day Sodom and Gomorrah."

Kelly along with her sister Robin Lafont, an evacuee from New Orleans, showed up this morning at the church to talk to the man who put it up, Pastor Wiley Bennett.

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Lovely, there are Fred Phelps disciples running loose.

chiefs4me · 09-08-2005, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Area 51

Let's say I was at the second regular season home game at municipal stadium in KC when the Chiefs moved to KC.

I'm kinda shy about my age. Over 45 at least.

oooooh and oldie.....how much over 45?

**gblowfish** · 09-08-2005, 03:57 PM

Is Fred Phelps franchising?

Jesus loves me, but he can't stand you!

keg in kc · 09-08-2005, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefs4me

oooooh and oldie.....how much over 45?

Hi, I'm Chuck Woolery. Welcome to Loooove Connection.

chiefs4me · 09-08-2005, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

......I have something just for you.....

chiefs4me · 09-08-2005, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Hi, I'm Chuck Woolery. Welcome to Loooove Connection.

.....now hold on Keg...since when is asking someone how old they are, making a love connection....So if I ask..... say Red, how old she is, it's a love connection....start dating more sweetie.....

Mr. Laz · 09-08-2005, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefs4me

......I have something just for you.....

Mr. Laz · 09-08-2005, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefs4me

.....now hold on Keg...since when is asking someone how old they are, making a love connection....So if I ask..... say Red, how old she is, it's a love connection....start dating more sweetie.....

a/s/l

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**Bob Dole** · 09-08-2005, 04:17 PM

Bob Dole has it on good authority that this thread made the baby Jesus cry.

**Lzen** · 09-08-2005, 04:17 PM

Without reading the whole thread or even the whole article (got about half way through and that was enough), I'll say this....Sounds to me like this is that town's version of Fred Phelps. It's a shame that these folks use a tragedy like this to spread their message. And it's an even bigger shame that they tarnish the Christian religions by doing this. I know this makes it easy for folks to bash religion and Christianity in particular. But let me tell you, this IS NOT what Christianity is all about. At least not my belief system and my views on Christianity. I really don't see how they can say an entire city that size is like S & G.

What about all the churches in that city? Pathetic.

Non-Christians just remember that for every one of these idiots, there are hundreds and thousands of good Christians that are doing all they can to help with the relief effort. These people like this don't represent the majority of us.

Jenny Gump · 09-08-2005, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

I wonder if part of their Baptist belief includes disrespecting the dead. Or maybe they just preach general poor taste.

I grew up Baptist...it's definitely the latter.

keg in kc · 09-08-2005, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JennyGump

I grew up

Bullshit.

**Rausch** · 09-08-2005, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JennyGump

I grew up Baptist...it's definitely the latter.

I've wondered about Catholicism as well...

keg in kc · 09-08-2005, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefs4me

now hold on Keg...since when is asking someone how old they are, making a love connection....So if I ask..... say Red, how old she is, it's a love connection....

Hey, whatever tweaks the man in the canoe. I'm not one to judge.

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start dating more sweetie.....

About 4 billion women just groaned and asked, "okay, who's the idiot who just said that?"

09-08-2005, 10:53 AM
Bob Dole King Shit of **** Mountain Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texarkana, Texas Casino cash: $-1364563	Christian spirit? A confrontation this morning between an East Texas church and an evacuee from New Orleans. It centers around a sign out front of Woodland Hills Baptist Church on Old Jacksonville Road in Tyler, about a mile inside the loop. Some say the message is offensive. "I drove by that sign and was just horrified when I saw that," says Kelly Jackman who now lives in Tyler but used to live in New Orleans. That sign at Woodland Hills Baptist Church reads ,"The big easy is the modern day Sodom and Gomorrah." Kelly along with her sister Robin Lafont, an evacuee from New Orleans, showed up this morning at the church to talk to the man who put it up, Pastor Wiley Bennett. During a heated discussion, Robin asked, "What's the point of the sign out there?" Pastor Bennett replied, "The point of the sign is New Orleans, Las Vegas, San Francisco, and New York City are some of the most wicked cities in America." Robin, who still has family members unaccounted for in New Orleans, is offended by the sign. "I'm telling you. This hurts. Why would you want to put more hurt, more salt in my wounds and why would you want to do this to me?" Kelly adds, "And to go by and see this church saying that God did this to destroy these people and basically they're celebrating that by putting that sign up there saying look at what God has done. He has destroyed the city of New Orleans because it is evil." Pastor Bennett says, "Anybody that's ever visited New Orleans, the very name its self - Big Easy - denotes that it's easy to find sin there." Pastor Bennett says the sign, is a sign of the times. "The purpose of the sign is to wake American up to the fact that America is going away from God. New York City's 9/11 was a call of judgment and New Orlean's horrible incident was judgment on a wicked city." Pastor Bennett was quick to point out that the church has helped evacuees by donating clothing, food and lodging, but their good will seems to be overshadowed by the sign. "I'm not saying that you were evil and didn't have good intentions but it is hurtful. It's extremely hurt full. That's all I'm saying. I'm asking you to take it down," pleaded Robin. "If I was doing it to hurt people I would take it down, but I'm not doing it to hurt people. I'm doing it to point out the sins of America," said Bennett. Even after the sisters left the church, the confrontation continued in the parking lot. Kelly said, "That sign also says a lot about your character and your integrity and it's nothing good I assure you." "They both called me an ungodly person with bad character and all that, and that's their right, but I have people that would say differently," Bennett told us. Finally, the confrontation came to an end, but with no resolution. Robin tried one last time, "I'm asking you to take it down." Bennett said, "We can not go any further so we may as well go." Robin said, "That's fine. I need to go." Robin and Kelly say they are going to spread the word of opposition to the sign and encourage people to contact the church. They hope the church will eventually take it down. Since the sign went up, many KLTV viewers have e-mailed us with their comments. Wednesday night, a viewer named Tammy told us: "Encouragement is needed, not more salt in the wounds... How could anyone see that sign as appropriate or bearing witness for Christ?" We were at Woodland Hills as they prepared for Wednesday Night services. They say earlier in the day, they were deluged with phone calls from people urging them to take the sign down. But they say after our report, the response has been 100 percent positive. They began their service with a prayer for the people of New Orleans and Mississippi, and we spoke with many members including these who say they support the message on the sign. Betty George has been a member for 23 years. "Our pastor has a strong stand on the Bible and he preaches God's word, and he has compassion for America and the souls of America." Randy Hays joined Woodland Hills in 1999. "All our pastor was trying to say is that America is pulling away from God, and He wants America to realize that." Pastor Bennett told us once again he has no plans to take down the sign right now, despite outcry from the community. Gillian Sheridan reporting. [email protected] Source
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Lzen Banded Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Oz Casino cash: $-699308	Without reading the whole thread or even the whole article (got about half way through and that was enough), I'll say this....Sounds to me like this is that town's version of Fred Phelps. It's a shame that these folks use a tragedy like this to spread their message. And it's an even bigger shame that they tarnish the Christian religions by doing this. I know this makes it easy for folks to bash religion and Christianity in particular. But let me tell you, this IS NOT what Christianity is all about. At least not my belief system and my views on Christianity. I really don't see how they can say an entire city that size is like S & G. What about all the churches in that city? Pathetic. Non-Christians just remember that for every one of these idiots, there are hundreds and thousands of good Christians that are doing all they can to help with the relief effort. These people like this don't represent the majority of us. __________________ Conversation would be vastly improved by the constant use of four simple words: I do not know.
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