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Old 04-29-2007, 11:15 PM  
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The more I learn about it, the more I love it. I never knew how complex it was. This is the first year that I've gotten into the draft, and it's made it that much more exciting. I so can't wait for the season to start!

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Old 05-03-2007, 01:14 AM   #151
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Basically you have to be much more talented to play tackle. It requires quick feet, balance, long arms, agility and good strength.

You'll often see offensive tackles that can't hack it moved inside to guard - like we're doing with John Welbourn this year, a guy who has played some offensive tackle for us in the past (poorly, most of the time).
If you have to be more talented to play tackle, why would it be difficult to move in to guard?
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:16 AM   #152
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If you have to be more talented to play tackle, why would it be difficult to move in to guard?
Well, most of the time, it isn't.

I don't know that I've ever heard of a guy moving from tackle to guard and failing, but a player did it might be because he wasn't strong enough.
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:17 AM   #153
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Tackle is the more demanding position because the tackles are often responsible for a larger pass rush lane. The DL can rush wide of you, inside of you, or over the top of you. For some plays, the tackle may be responsible for the widest rusher. In other words, if the LB blitzes, the tackle may have to slide off the DE and go after the blitzing LB. In general the tackle faces athletic rushers that combine both power and speed. The tackle that protects the QBs blind side (LT for a RH QB or RT for a LH QB) is especially important since if he blows his assignment the QB could fumble or be injured. Another reason the LT is the most important position on the line is that the TE often lines up next to the RT, so the RT typically gets more help than the LT.

In contrast, the guard has a more narrow passing lane to defend and is typically going against a more powerful but less athletic pass rusher. The job of the guards and center is to keep the DT (and any blitzes from the middle) from collapsing the pocket and applying pressure up the in the middle of the line. Pressure from the middle is the most difficult for the defense to achieve, but also the most disruptive to the QB and the other team's offense. This is because when the QB passes, he wants to step up into the pocket. QBs throw better when their momentum is moving forward when they release the ball. Pressure from the middle disrupts this.

In general, the job of OL on passing plays is to engage the DL while moving slightly backward. An OL wants to keep his body between the DL and the QB.

On running plays things are the exact opposite; the OL are trying to push the DL and LB down field to make room for the RB. Normally the OL is trying to open a hole for the RB. This normally involves coordination between the movement in the backfield and the angles that the OL engage the DL. This can get extremely complicated and is almost impossible to show without diagramming plays. The run blocking skills that you want from your lineman depend on the running game strategy that your team employs. However, in gerneral, guards need to have enough foot speed that they can pull our of their normal position in the line to lead a sweep around the end of the line.

This is only the tip of the iceberg, but gives a basic idea.
I can understand that. THanks.
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:21 AM   #154
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Then what's the big deal about moving Taylor to Guard? Well, besides the fact that we could have just drafted a guard.
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:22 AM   #155
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The Chiefs were really good from 1960 - 1973.

BBZZZZTTT.

The '60's and early '70's greatness ended on Christmas Day, 1971. We still had many of the great Chiefs on the roster in '72 and '73, but we were on the down hill slide due Stram's decision to hold on to aging veterans for too many seasons. We were 8-6 in '72 and 7-5-2 in '73 and both of those seasons were filled with bitter disappointment, so much so that Hank Stram was fired as head coach after the '74 season.
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:23 AM   #156
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:23 AM   #157
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BBZZZZTTT.

The '60's and early '70's greatness ended on Christmas Day, 1971. We still had many of the great Chiefs on the roster in '72 and '73, but we were on the down hill slide due Stram's decision to hold on to aging veterans for too many seasons. We were 8-6 in '72 and 7-5-2 in '73 and both of those seasons were filled with bitter disappointment, so much so that Hank Stram was fired as head coach after the '74 season.
Stram was fired? I didn't know that.
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:25 AM   #158
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Well, most of the time, it isn't.

I don't know that I've ever heard of a guy moving from tackle to guard and failing, but a player did it might be because he wasn't strong enough.
Some speculate that we moved Black to so many different postions in his first couple years that he got confused. This might be another reason for the failure of moving a young OL from T to G. Or maybe Jordan Black just sucked.
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:26 AM   #159
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Then what's the big deal about moving Taylor to Guard? Well, besides the fact that we could have just drafted a guard.
It's not really a big deal. It happens all the time.

But Taylor might be quicker than the average college offensive guard, so he'd be an ideal candidate. Good guards have the ability to get out on the edge and lead sweeps.
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Stram was fired? I didn't know that.
Sad day in KC, like watching your father get fired. That was the last coach we had that was competent on both sides of the ball.
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Some speculate that we moved Black to so many different postions in his first couple years that he got confused. This might be another reason for the failure of moving a young OL from T to G. Or maybe Jordan Black just sucked.

I'm going to go with the latter of the two.
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In the book I'm reading, it lists RB's and HB's. I thought they were the same thing?
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Running back is kind of a general term. It encompasses both halfbacks and fullbacks. You'll also hear halfbacks referred to as "tailbacks" from time to time.
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