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Old 10-10-2008, 05:01 PM   #1
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The fact that they're even shopping him tells you all you need to know about what they think of Croyle.
If they thought Croyle could develop into a quality starting QB they'd want Tony there for him to throw to this year. They're pretty much done evaulating him.
This tells me they've given up on Croyle, they don't care what happens to him this year, if he keeps getting the snot kicked out of him that's fine. They're trying to accumulate as many draft picks as they can in case they like a QB and want to move up to get him.
Really? They are shopping him?

Looks to me like they are TAKING calls, not making them...
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:43 PM   #2
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They're trying to accumulate as many draft picks as they can in case they like a QB and want to move up to get him.
Why would they need to move up to get anyone?
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:45 PM   #3
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Why would they need to move up to get anyone?
The Rams, Lions, and Bengals are bad, real bad.
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:48 PM   #4
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Maybe the rams, but the bungholes have Palmer and they have needs on the other side of the ball. come to think of it we do also.
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:47 PM   #5
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The fact that they're even shopping him tells you all you need to know about what they think of Croyle.
If they thought Croyle could develop into a quality starting QB they'd want Tony there for him to throw to this year. They're pretty much done evaulating him.
This tells me they've given up on Croyle, they don't care what happens to him this year, if he keeps getting the snot kicked out of him that's fine. They're trying to accumulate as many draft picks as they can in case they like a QB and want to move up to get him.
I think that's a bit of a stretch. If the front office is indeed looking to move TG, my guess is that it's because they've realized how far this team needs to go, as a whole, to be competitive. At absolute best, the Chiefs are 2 years from competing for a playoff spot, most likely longer. TG will offer little value by the time that happens, so if they can get good value that will help the team more long term, they'll take it.

I'd hate to see TG leave, but if it does happen, I hope he goes to a team with a legit shot at a championship.
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:05 PM   #6
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Yeah, they're sitting by and waiting for the phone to ring. That's PR. If he wasn't being made available nobdoy would be calling.
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:13 PM   #7
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Yeah, they're sitting by and waiting for the phone to ring. That's PR. If he wasn't being made available nobdoy would be calling.
If he played for a good team, I'd agree with you.

No one would be calling, because it makes no sense to move him.

Are you not seeing the connection between all these players that are rumored to be dealt?

Gonzalez, Roy Williams, TJ, Leonard Little.

All play on terrible teams.



Christ, the same rule applies even in fantasy football.

The guy with the strong team is trying to rape the weak team by offering depth for a superstar - knowing the guy is desperate - and the weak owner knowing the trade would be good for him long term - he almost has to take it.
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:14 PM   #8
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I can't believe some of you guys can be so cavalier about trading Gonzo. Other than DT, he's the best player we've had in the last 40 years. And now, because the franchise has screwed things to such an extent, he'll retire in a different uniform. If this isn't justification for a complete fan revolt, I don't know what is.

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Old 10-10-2008, 05:22 PM   #9
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I can't believe some of you guys can be so cavalier about trading Gonzo. Other than DT, he's the best player we've had in the last 40 years. And now, because the franchise has screwed things to such an extent, he'll retire in a different uniform. If this isn't justification for a complete fan revolt, I don't know what is.

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It seems to happen so often, Mr. Fax, that I'm indifferent to the retiring in a different jersey thing. If Montana can wear #19, I'd say Gonzo, maybe the best TE in history, could wear a blue #84, or whatever.

He'll go into the Hall as a Chief. At least I'd hope...not doing this would be completely goofed up.
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Old 10-10-2008, 06:07 PM   #10
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It seems to happen so often, Mr. Fax, that I'm indifferent to the retiring in a different jersey thing. If Montana can wear #19, I'd say Gonzo, maybe the best TE in history, could wear a blue #84, or whatever.

He'll go into the Hall as a Chief. At least I'd hope...not doing this would be completely goofed up.
Yeah ... I know, Mr. DeezNutz. It's silly to feel the way I do and I know it.

Still, I'd much rather that Gonzo spend his entire career as a Chief ... which he would have been able to do had it not been for our front office.

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Old 10-10-2008, 06:14 PM   #11
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Yeah ... I know, Mr. DeezNutz. It's silly to feel the way I do and I know it.

Still, I'd much rather that Gonzo spend his entire career as a Chief ... which he would have been able to do had it not been for our front office.

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I don't disagree with the sentiment that you've expressed. Gonzo is still a very productive player, and, if we were fans of a competently run franchise, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:27 PM   #12
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I can't believe some of you guys can be so cavalier about trading Gonzo. Other than DT, he's the best player we've had in the last 40 years. And now, because the franchise has screwed things to such an extent, he'll retire in a different uniform. If this isn't justification for a complete fan revolt, I don't know what is.

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The idea of it is definitely disheartening. To say the very least.
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:29 PM   #13
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I can't believe some of you guys can be so cavalier about trading Gonzo. Other than DT, he's the best player we've had in the last 40 years. And now, because the franchise has screwed things to such an extent, he'll retire in a different uniform. If this isn't justification for a complete fan revolt, I don't know what is.

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I agree Fax and I am shocked that possible CP is even thinking about this.
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Even if it is the other team initiating the call, the impression I get is that the Chiefs are at the minumum, interested. Assuming that (which I do, that's my opinion- you can differ on that) the Chiefs aren't worried about TG being there for Croyle. If they're not worried about him being there for Croyle then they're not really worried about this alleged "evaluation" they're doing.
If they really wanted to see what he could do, and they really believed he was good they'd want TG there.
I think they've given up on him for their future plans (other than maybe a long term backup).
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:37 PM   #15
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I don't see the big deal. It reminds me of when the Bruins traded Ray Bourque. He was a Hall of Fame type player, he was the face of the franchise, he was beloved in Boston when they traded him to the Avalanche. Then he won the Stanley Cup. For the most part Bruins fans were happy for him. There was no real animosity.
I'm not from here, and I'm not a lifelong Chiefs fan so I can't totally relate but I don't see the big deal.
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