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Old 03-01-2009, 03:36 PM  
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Bills | Interested in acquiring Waters

Bills | Interested in acquiring Waters
Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:04:25 -0800

Pat Moran, of Scout.com, reports the Buffalo Bills are interested in trading for Kansas City Chiefs OG Brian Waters, according to source.

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Old 03-01-2009, 10:37 PM   #151
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None of the players the Chiefs would attempt to get rid of are remotely worth a 2, you might be able to bait some team into a 3 but with Buffalo picking at the front end of the rounds I seriously doubt you'd get more than a 4.

I think it's time for Waters to go, guards are easily replaceable, he's a mouthpiece from the past regime and obviously is not the kind of player this organization wants now going and whining to Whitlock and all.

I'd be ok with Waters leaving if we had a solid OL. But, with keeping Waters, we still could stand 3 new starters on the OL.
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Old 03-01-2009, 10:47 PM   #152
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I'd be ok with Waters leaving if we had a solid OL. But, with keeping Waters, we still could stand 3 new starters on the OL.
When you're building a new team, one that does have young guys on it and you're bringing in a guy like Vrabel it's probably best to not have anyone pissing on management still on the team.
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Old 03-01-2009, 10:48 PM   #153
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Tony G. and Waters for their 2nd and 3rd would be great. Then if we can find a way to get rid of LJ, we wouldn't have anymore of the spoiled babies on our team. We then could build a team.... Not just have some Pro Bowlers.
I wouldn't exactly call TG a "spoiled baby." He is a true professional. Can't believe you are putting him in a category that includes LJ.
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Old 03-01-2009, 10:53 PM   #154
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I wouldn't exactly call TG a "spoiled baby." He is a true professional. Can't believe you are putting him in a category that includes LJ.
Well he has been whining...if you don't remember he basically said if Herm wasn't back and Thigpen wasn't the starter he didn't wanna play here.
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Old 03-01-2009, 10:53 PM   #155
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After just watching Pioli trade our 2nd for both Cassel and Vrabel, some peeps think it's possible that we'll trade Waters for a 5?

Now I know why the Israelites built that golden calf thing while Moses' back was turned.

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Once again, Mr. FAX, your wisdom is way above my mental paycheck. I am well versed in the Biblical account that you have referred to, but I fail to make the connection. For my self esteem please chalk this up to the lateness of the hour and my brain being in the full stand down mode.
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Old 03-01-2009, 10:54 PM   #156
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Well, that would allow us to slide Albert to LG and draft one of the top LTs in this draft.
We are paying Albert LT money.
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Old 03-01-2009, 10:56 PM   #157
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When you're building a new team, one that does have young guys on it and you're bringing in a guy like Vrabel it's probably best to not have anyone pissing on management still on the team.


Or better yet, management quits coddling players like ours have grown accustomed to over the last 8 years. Instead, they raise the standards to let players know they won't tolerate such things. If players continue, step up and put a stop to the trouble stirring. If needed, you make an example out of the vet players that want to gripe.


Waters has been upset for less than a week - for something he was probably out of line for trying to do anyway. If he's still griping come summer, that's different. But for now, give it some time and see if he gets over it when team meetings and OTAs begin.
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That'd make for one hell of a left side of the Offensive Line.
Not sure I'd do that, but talk about "protection".
Monroe was LT to Albert's LG in college. Was their left side awesome? I'm not being a wise ass, I just don't remember a lot of media hoopla about their O-line.
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How much is the difference between LT money and guard money?
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A part of me thinks LJ is the least expendable of the three in the minds of Chiefs brass. Not sure why I feel that way... I just think he's gonna be here when the season opens.
LJ is the most replaceable. + TG is a team leader. LJ is a team distractor.
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That Waters take might be fine if he hadn't run to Whitlock with this to try to make management look bad.
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How much is the difference between LT money and guard money?
You're comparing the most important OL position and 2nd or 3rd most on the team to one of the least...so the answer is a ton.
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Well, that would allow us to slide Albert to LG and draft one of the top LTs in this draft.


Why is it that so many Chiefs fans seem to think that Albert isn't going to cut it at LT when he actually had a decent rookie season in that position?
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Why is it that so many Chiefs fans seem to think that Albert isn't going to cut it at LT when he actually had a decent rookie season in that position?
The OL obsession around here is out of hand, this team does not need to use another 1st round pick an an offensive lineman.
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Old 03-01-2009, 11:03 PM   #165
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With all of LJ's issues there is no way this would happen. LJ and waters combined may = their 1st round pick and thats a big maybe, but not for Jason Peters as well. Why would they take Waters just to get rid Peters...
I would jump on that deal (see bolded). But I don't the Bills will.
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