Chiefs I like what Haley did yesterday... - Page 11

**petegz28** · 09-28-2009, 07:36 AM

3 yards rushing in the 1st half? No, you are going to run the ****ing ball. You are not going to be allowed to drop back and watch your QB get killed because you can't run the ****ing ball. It is similar to making a hitter lay a bunt down with 2 strikes after he couldn't do it on strikes 1 and 2.

Fatlock can cry that Haley isn't treating them like men all he wants. He needs to stick to his doublestuffs. This team isn't going to compete for a playoff spot anyway so this is exactly the time to pull stunts like this. You want to win? You have to learn how to block. You have to learn how to run the ball. 3 ****ing yards in 1 half is pathetic and I don't blame Haley one bit for what he did.

It isn't like we had 30 yards in the 1st half..we had 3. Three. Unacceptable, PERIOD! Dropping back to pass would have resulted in Cassel being broken into pieces.

I don't know what game Fatlock and some others watched, but I saw one that showed me our O line was there in name only. Had we dropped back, which is exactly what Philly wanted, we would be cussing about the picks Cassel threw or the fact that Brokie would be the starter for the next several weeks cause of Cassel being hurt.

htismaqe · 09-28-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Did any of your relatives die at Jonestown?

Dude.

**Dave Lane** · 09-28-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Yeah, giving up on the game in third quarter, is exactly how we should have done it.

Ridiculous. I am not saying chuck the ball fifty yards downfield, but at LEAST call some three step drops... som boot legs....something.

Try to actually loosen up the defense to run the ball.

Ridiculous. Pathetic. Embarrassing.

Just when I thought my opinion of you could drop no further, you bust out into the clear.

htismaqe · 09-28-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

When the team has a ton of penalties over the preseason and the two of the first three games.... it is coaching.

When the coaches and GM preach about the 'right' 53..., they better freaking play smart football.

The play at the end of the half was equally on Haley. Sorry, but the QB should be told right before that play, that no matter what, you don't thorw it in bounds.

But, the bigger issue was not having timeouts because he couldn't get the play in quick enough... mainly because he fired his OC in the last week of preseason.

I really like the 'accountability' aspect of Haley, but there is also very much that I am growing not to like.

Good post.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-28-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz

Why, because this offensive line has to learn how to block? They can't pass protect and they can't open a gap for the running back. If Haley thinks making these jokers do there job as a means to an end I'm all for it. I don't see where anyone is drinking the koolaid in said statement...

If Herm went into "Operation Shutdown" the same ****s lining up to fluff Haley would be the first ones pleading for air strikes on his house.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-28-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Big Irish should start at RT for starters.

The fact that I haven't even seen him in a game concerns me.

Maybe he's actually worse than Ndudwe in practice?

ChiefsCountry · 09-28-2009, 01:25 PM

Sauto agreed with Pete on this topic, officially that means it is wrong.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-28-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Sauto agreed with Pete on this topic, officially that means it is wrong.

Please feel free to ban me for a day if I ever acknowledge agreeing with Pete about anything

**kysirsoze** · 09-28-2009, 01:27 PM

I don't know if it was a "message" or not. Personally I believe it was, but that's not the point. Whether it's Herm, Vermeil, or Haley, any new head coach is going to need time to instill their method and vision on a team. ESPECIALLY if that team has been in the bottom 5 of the league for two years straight.

Some of you cry that Herm would have been crucified for yesterday. That's because he would do it in his 23rd game. This was Haley's 3rd. Whether you would have made the same choices or not, Haley's gonna be here a while so just settle down and see where he's going with this.

Fish · 09-28-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz

Why, because this offensive line has to learn how to block? They can't pass protect and they can't open a gap for the running back. If Haley thinks making these jokers do there job as a means to an end I'm all for it. I don't see where anyone is drinking the koolaid in said statement...

Herm didn't get that luxury, I'm not sure why so many are stepping up and giving the benefit of the doubt to Haley.

If Herm were still the coach, there would be countless threads criticizing the playcalling and saying he hates to pass, Arena ball, 3yds and dust, run it up the center's ass, R2P2, etc. Haley does the same shit and it's all for the sake of progress.

**DeezNutz** · 09-28-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If Herm went into "Operation Shutdown" the same ****s lining up to fluff Haley would be the first ones pleading for air strikes on his house.

There would 87 threads on page 1 about "playing to win the game."

Our current coach quits and it's playing within our limitations and sending a message. It's unreal.

**kysirsoze** · 09-28-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Sauto agreed with Pete on this topic, officially that means it is wrong.

But so did FAX so that officially makes it right......

*head explodes*

dallaschiefsfan · 09-28-2009, 01:30 PM

Some of you cry that Herm would have been crucified for yesterday. That's because he would do it in his 23rd game. This was Haley's 3rd. Whether you would have made the same choices or not, Haley's gonna be here a while so just settle down and see where he's going with this.[/QUOTE]

THIS

**petegz28** · 09-28-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Please feel free to ban me for a day if I ever acknowledge agreeing with Pete about anything

Do I need to dig out the thread where you and I agreed multiple times on guitarists?

So ban yourself for a month or so.

**DeezNutz** · 09-28-2009, 01:31 PM

The definition of pussy doesn't change, whether it's week 32 or week 3.

**kysirsoze** · 09-28-2009, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

There would 87 threads on page 1 about "playing to win the game."

Our current coach quits and it's playing within our limitations and sending a message. It's unreal.

Again. Only because this is his third game. Herm called games almost this poorly well into his second season and beyond. I gave Herm the benefit of the doubt to until he showed it was not warranted. Maybe it will go the same way with Haley but I don't see the point in assuming the worst with a new regime.

09-28-2009, 07:36 AM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-1195873	I like what Haley did yesterday... 3 yards rushing in the 1st half? No, you are going to run the **ing ball. You are not going to be allowed to drop back and watch your QB get killed because you can't run the ing ball. It is similar to making a hitter lay a bunt down with 2 strikes after he couldn't do it on strikes 1 and 2. Fatlock can cry that Haley isn't treating them like men all he wants. He needs to stick to his doublestuffs. This team isn't going to compete for a playoff spot anyway so this is exactly the time to pull stunts like this. You want to win? You have to learn how to block. You have to learn how to run the ball. 3 **ing yards in 1 half is pathetic and I don't blame Haley one bit for what he did. It isn't like we had 30 yards in the 1st half..we had 3. Three. Unacceptable, PERIOD! Dropping back to pass would have resulted in Cassel being broken into pieces. I don't know what game Fatlock and some others watched, but I saw one that showed me our O line was there in name only. Had we dropped back, which is exactly what Philly wanted, we would be cussing about the picks Cassel threw or the fact that Brokie would be the starter for the next several weeks cause of Cassel being hurt.
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kysirsoze SNAP THE ****ING BALL!!! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $-3054	I don't know if it was a "message" or not. Personally I believe it was, but that's not the point. Whether it's Herm, Vermeil, or Haley, any new head coach is going to need time to instill their method and vision on a team. ESPECIALLY if that team has been in the bottom 5 of the league for two years straight. Some of you cry that Herm would have been crucified for yesterday. That's because he would do it in his 23rd game. This was Haley's 3rd. Whether you would have made the same choices or not, Haley's gonna be here a while so just settle down and see where he's going with this.
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dallaschiefsfan Herm is the worst...horrible Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $3038850	Some of you cry that Herm would have been crucified for yesterday. That's because he would do it in his 23rd game. This was Haley's 3rd. Whether you would have made the same choices or not, Haley's gonna be here a while so just settle down and see where he's going with this.[/QUOTE] THIS __________________
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