Chiefs ESPN - Crennel likely to join Chiefs - Page 11

Shag · 01-03-2010, 10:30 AM

Schefter just mentioned on ESPN Sunday Countdown that Romeo Crennel was likely to join the Chiefs as DC this offseason. Nothing concrete (or necessarily surprising), but interesting nonetheless...

RustShack · 01-03-2010, 01:17 PM

LOL You can't use the Browns defense as a example since he wasn't the DC. How often to great DC's become HC's and field great defenses with that team also? Defenses Guru Dungy never had a good defense with the Colts.

Hammock Parties · 01-03-2010, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Where is the evidence to suggest that he'll do well

He's morbidly obese. Those guys make the best coaches. Mangini is just fat, for instance. Maybe if he ate more fast food while spending countless hours in the office, he'd be a better coach. But no, Mangini has to take the time to prepare a salad every once inawhile.

RustShack · 01-03-2010, 01:18 PM

Also think about what your saying, he didn't make the Browns good? Bill ****ing Billichick couldn't make the Browns good.

Hammock Parties · 01-03-2010, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Christ, just about anyone would be considered an upgrade.

People bitched for 20 years about Carl hiring his buddies, and now when the Executive of the Decade does it, it's perfectly acceptable.

I think they bitched about it because it didn't work.

Everyone in the NFL hires their buddies for the most part.

RedThat · 01-03-2010, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

I just love the dumbasses who think Bill Billichick completely did everything all by himself. Just because hes assistants don't make good HC's in no way means they aren't good assistants.

Its just really a team concept isn't it? yes, this means we need to look at things from a broader perspective.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-03-2010, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Also think about what your saying, he didn't make the Browns good? Bill ****ing Billichick couldn't make the Browns good.

Actually, the Browns were improving, then the bottom fell out when Modell announced the move mid-season.

**dirk digler** · 01-03-2010, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Christ, just about anyone would be considered an upgrade.

People bitched for 20 years about Carl hiring his buddies, and now when the Executive of the Decade does it, it's perfectly acceptable.

Christ definitely would be an upgrade but he is not available or so I hear.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-03-2010, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Also think about what your saying, he didn't make the Browns good? Bill ****ing Billichick couldn't make the Browns good.

Marty Schottenheimer did, and I'm no fan of Marty's.

That's a stupid argument.

kcxiv · 01-03-2010, 01:20 PM

So what you are saying is that in order to have a good team you n eed good players? Ya, we didnt already know that.

This team has to get good players plain and simple. I rather have Crennel. Hopefully he has a good eye for talent and we can draft some players. He doesnt have to concentrate on both sides of the ball just 1.

No matter how we look at it, we are ging to have to pick something from someones tree.

We do have to give the guys a few years to see if they can raise the ****ing dead.

I will say this again, KC started over. They completely threw out Herm's plans and started from scratch.

We may not like it, but thats what it is. Welcome to rebuilding hell, it takes a toll on the fans.

**DeezNutz** · 01-03-2010, 01:21 PM

Peyton Manning wouldn't be successful in KC.

Were you ****ers expecting a playoff birth?

chiefzilla1501 · 01-03-2010, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

Well, basically they've been successful with a revolving door at the coordinator positions. That potentially indicates that the coordinators weren't difference makers.

Not entirely true.

The year after Romeo left, the Patriots ranked 17th on defense. And that became the point in time when the Patriots started to pivot toward an offensive-heavy scheme. The identity of the Patriots of today is entirely different from the identity under Romeo. Under Romeo, the Pats ran an extremely conservative offense that depended on the defense to make big plays. They put Brady in positions to win and he delivered. The defense isn't even remotely as dependable. Now the Pats rely on Brady, not the defense, to carry the team.

I don't know what the main contributor was, but most Pats' fans will tell you that the Pats' defense over the last few years isn't remotely as good as the Pats' defense that won them their first Super Bowl.

Pioli Zombie · 01-03-2010, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Actually, the Browns were improving, then the bottom fell out when Modell announced the move mid-season.

How refreshing. People forget how good the Browns had gotten to be by 1994. They beat the Champion Cowboys in Dallas on the way to a 11-5 season and playoff win over Parcells Patriot. 1995 was a Modell caused disaster.
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'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-03-2010, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Not entirely true.

The year after Romeo left, the Patriots ranked 17th on defense. And that became the point in time when the Patriots started to pivot toward an offensive-heavy scheme. The identity of the Patriots of today is entirely different from the identity under Romeo. Under Romeo, the Pats ran an extremely conservative offense that depended on the defense to make big plays. They put Brady in positions to win and he delivered. The defense isn't even remotely as dependable. Now the Pats rely on Brady, not the defense, to carry the team.

I don't know what the main contributor was, but most Pats' fans will tell you that the Pats' defense over the last few years isn't remotely as good as the Pats' defense that won them their first Super Bowl.

And for some reason, that also seems to overlap with the aging and decline of the players who made those defenses so good. I'm sure that's just a coincidence, though.

**DeezNutz** · 01-03-2010, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't know what the main contributor was, but most Pats' fans will tell you that the Pats' defense over the last few years isn't remotely as good as the Pats' defense that won them their first Super Bowl.

Age and poor drafting.

But Pioli wasn't involved in the latter, luckily.

**dirk digler** · 01-03-2010, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Age and poor drafting.

But Pioli wasn't involved in the latter, luckily.

As was Bill Belichick but he sucks or so I heard

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