Mike Mayock comments on top 3 QBs. - Page 11

Chiefnj2 · 01-21-2010, 12:38 PM

Out of the 3 top qb's comming into the draft who can you see as the biggest RISK pick Bradford,Mccoy,Clausen?

Mike Mayock, NFL Network
Hey Fred, interesting question. I like Jimmy Clausen, but I see him as the biggest risk. Even though he comes out of a pro-style offense. Bradford is very, very solid. And I think McCoy is a little bit mroe of a developmental play, but easily the best athlete of the three. Clausen, for me, needs to be more consistent in the pocket and needs to make more consistent throws.

So, Mayock thinks Clausen is a bigger risk/bust potential than Bradford and McCoy.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-01-2011, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Do the Chiefs list that under his profile on their web site?

And that means exactly what?

Asamoah took no snaps at center in any regular season or PS game. He started at guard for the entirety of his college career. Practicing at center in college. Wow.

I guess the Patriots should start giving Edelman reps as the scout team QB since he played the position in college, or perhaps the Bears should play Urlacher at safety.

Saccopoo · 02-01-2011, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

And that means exactly what?

Asamoah took no snaps at center in any regular season or PS game. He started at guard for the entirety of his college career. Practicing at center in college. Wow.

I guess the Patriots should start giving Edelman reps as the scout team QB since he played the position in college, or perhaps the Bears should play Urlacher at safety.

We could play Berry at quarterback since that's what he played in high school. Cassel could be our tight end. (Shit, he couldn't possibly be any worse than Pope.)

But then, we did put Branden Albert at left tackle after he played guard his entire college career and the majority around here seem fine with that ongoing project.

Apparently, Chiefs fans love moving guys to brand new positions after never having played them.

BigCatDaddy · 02-01-2011, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Squeeze? So, you're suggesting that they play Lilja and Asamoah out of position, just because they can?

****, I hope not.

Lilja will remain at RG. Remember Waters was originally brought in to play center and if he could have fit the ball under his ass when snapping it probably would still be there. Asamoah WILL start somewhere so that leaves Waters to either play LG, C or be traded since he won't be a backup. So Waters slides to C or Asamoah plays C if BOTH are still on the team. Do you dispute that fact? Personally I think Waters makes the more natural transition especially with his experience.

Again, I ask what do you THINK will happen?

**Saul Good** · 02-01-2011, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

And that means exactly what?

Asamoah took no snaps at center in any regular season or PS game. He started at guard for the entirety of his college career. Practicing at center in college. Wow.

I guess the Patriots should start giving Edelman reps as the scout team QB since he played the position in college, or perhaps the Bears should play Urlacher at safety.

It speaks to what the team might be thinking about using him at a different position. I don't advocate moving him. I'm just trying to figure out whether or not it's plausible that the Chiefs might move him to Center. It seems odd to me that the Chiefs would mention that he practiced at Center in his profile (second sentence of the section, no less) if it didn't mean anything. That's not to say that it necessarily does mean something, but it provides a little insight.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-01-2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Lilja will remain at RG. Remember Waters was originally brought in to play center and if he could have fit the ball under his ass when snapping it probably would still be there. Asamoah WILL start so that leaves Waters to either play LG, C or traded since he won't be a backup.

Again, I ask what do you THINK will happen?

Now I know why you're in the red.

**Saul Good** · 02-01-2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Apparently, Chiefs fans love moving guys to brand new positions after never having played them.

They learned that from the other side of the parking lot.

BigCatDaddy · 02-01-2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Now I know why you're in the red.

Yeah, I guess my first Rep under the new system came from Hamas for this. I think is upset he would have lost our loser leave the board bet last year on Bradford having a better Rookie QB rating then Sanchez.

"There more then that IMO like Rivers and Orton, but that's a whole different arguement.

Throwing accuracy and leadership abilities are the most important qualities in a QB. Football IQ and durability are up there as well, but college system is way down the line of things teams now look at. That's why I knew Bradford would be a success in the NFL despite all the nay sayers on the board. Accuracy and leadership were never in question with him.

It's also the reason despite all the 1st round QB grades this year, I'm not a fan of guys like Locker and Mallet who are missing one or the other of the key makings of a good QB. Gabbert and Newton I believe have both of those so they can play in the league. It's just a matter of being able to take it to another level.
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BigCatDaddy · 02-01-2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Now I know why you're in the red.

Dude, you bitch but never give your take. Who will play and who will sit?

milkman · 02-01-2011, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

We could play Berry at quarterback since that's what he played in high school. Cassel could be our tight end. (Shit, he couldn't possibly be any worse than Pope.)

But then, we did put Branden Albert at left tackle after he played guard his entire college career and the majority around here seem fine with that ongoing project.

Apparently, Chiefs fans love moving guys to brand new positions after never having played them.

You never give it a rest do you?

In spite of the the fact that Albert still hasn't mastered the position, in the last two years, he has given up one fewer sack than Ryan Clady, the guy that everyone points to as the psoter boy LT.

Your boy, Russel Okung, gave up 4 sacks in 10 games.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-01-2011, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Dude, you bitch but never give your take. Who will play and who will sit?

How the **** do I know? The personnel decisions have been questionable throughout Haley's tenure.

Furthermore, there's no CBA, we're weeks away from the Combines and months away from the draft. Trying to predict who will be the opening day starters on the offensive line is an exercise in futility.

BigCatDaddy · 02-01-2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Furthermore, there's no CBA, we're weeks away from the Combines and months away from the draft. Trying to predict who will be the opening day starters on the offensive line is an exercise in futility.

Predicting shit seems to be 1/2 the post on the boards right now including the MUTHER ****ING WEATHER!

Chiefnj2 · 02-01-2011, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

How the **** do I know? The personnel decisions have been questionable throughout Haley's tenure.

Furthermore, there's no CBA, we're weeks away from the Combines and months away from the draft. Trying to predict who will be the opening day starters on the offensive line is an exercise in futility.

Every football discussion on this board is an exercise in futility.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-01-2011, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

You never give it a rest do you?

In spite of the the fact that Albert still hasn't mastered the position, in the last two years, he has given up one fewer sack than Ryan Clady, the guy that everyone points to as the psoter boy LT.

Your boy, Russel Okung, gave up 4 sacks in 10 games.

While Albert and Richardson were far from perfect this past season, you know as well as anyone that the interior of the Chiefs offensive line was the real culprit in their failures to convert on third down and in short yardage situations.

Also, as much as I hope the Chiefs upgrade their center and right guard positions (with Asamoah, at least IMO, being an upgrade over Lilja), the Chiefs had the #1 rushing attack in the NFL and that line protected a mediocre QB with questionable decision making, yet threw for 27 TD's and 7 INT's.

Again, I hope the Chiefs upgrade the interior but they have far greater needs than offensive tackles.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-01-2011, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Every football discussion on this board is an exercise in futility.

I completely disagree.

It's one thing to discuss the weekly successes and failures of the offense, defense, special teams and coaching decisions, which are completely and undoubtedly unrelated to "predicting" who will line up on the offensive line, especially when there's no CBA, no Combine, no draft and no free agency.

BigCatDaddy · 02-01-2011, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I completely disagree.

It's one thing to discuss the weekly successes and failures of the offense, defense, special teams and coaching decisions, which are completely and undoubtedly unrelated to "predicting" who will line up on the offensive line, especially when there's no CBA, no Combine, no draft and no free agency.

However, you are posting in the draft forum.

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