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**Mr. Flopnuts** · 02-15-2010, 05:53 PM

This comes from someone who has been an incredibly reliable source on this site in the past. Take it for what's it's worth.

If Claussen falls to around the 20-25th pick the Chiefs may package their 2nd round picks to move up in the draft to take Claussen. Weiss is telling all teams that contact him about Claussen that he is the real deal. Claussen will play in the NFL for 10-15 years.

Weiss is not sold on Cassell. He feels that he may not have the mental tools to be a successful QB without better players around him. He feels that he has the physical tools, but lacks the mental discipline thats needed to play the position. Both Haley and Pioli think Cassell will work out fine.

So what is gonna happen? Weiss wants a quality backup in place behind Cassell to push him. Croyle is not that backup. Everyone at Arrrowhead knows Croyle is not a long term solution so he can't really push Cassell to excel.

Enter Brady Quinn. The Chiefs had talks with Cleveland a couple of weeks ago about a trade to KC. But, the Browns trade demands were really stupidly high so the talks went no where seriously. If the demands come down, Quinn will be a Chief.

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Now the rest of this info is from other sources so get out that shaker of salt to take wth this information. Compiled from 4 different sources.

Supposely Buffalo talked to the Chiefs about a trade for Croyle.

Cleveland wanted the 2nd round pick plus a 5th rounder for Quinn.

KC was willing to part with a 4th-5th rounder for Quinn. Which one would depend on playing time,

Weiss and Cassell talk almost every day on the phone and in person. Long talks.

Nothing new with the Bowe wants a new contract before the OTA's situation. But, the Chiefs have put out trade feelers to gauge interest in Bowe but most were 4th-5th rounders.

chiefzilla1501 · 02-15-2010, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

We aren't the Redskins here, I don't think Clark Hunt would be ok with the idea of being sold on 2 QB's being the franchise in 2 years and giving them both a lot of money.

I'm pretty sure that once the keys were handed over, Clark Hunt isn't meddling too much. I doubt that this is a problem. The Chiefs have to spend that #5 pick money no matter who they draft. And I think everyone and their mom realizes that there aren't going to be a lot of players in FA to spend on anyway.

Seriously, I don't see any major obstacle. If the Chiefs like Clausen, they'll take him. To say otherwise is pure conspiracy theory.

**the Talking Can** · 02-15-2010, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

Cassel is the QB. Pioli gave him a ton of cash for that role. If we did draft Clausen he would ride the pine for 2010 for certain.

you say that likes it a bad thing

clausen riding the pine for a year would be the best thing....

**DeezNutz** · 02-15-2010, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I'm pretty sure that once the keys were handed over, Clark Hunt isn't meddling too much. I doubt that this is a problem. The Chiefs have to spend that #5 pick money no matter who they draft. And I think everyone and their mom realizes that there aren't going to be a lot of players in FA to spend on anyway.

Seriously, I don't see any major obstacle. If the Chiefs like Clausen, they'll take him. To say otherwise is pure conspiracy theory.

Hang on, now. It's almost 100 percent accepted that Clark was the reason why we had to **** around with Gailey for as long as we did, so I'm not as confident in his "hands-off" approach.

Mecca · 02-15-2010, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I'm pretty sure that once the keys were handed over, Clark Hunt isn't meddling too much. I doubt that this is a problem. The Chiefs have to spend that #5 pick money no matter who they draft. And I think everyone and their mom realizes that there aren't going to be a lot of players in FA to spend on anyway.

Seriously, I don't see any major obstacle. If the Chiefs like Clausen, they'll take him. To say otherwise is pure conspiracy theory.

Wouldn't you say it's a pretty safe assumption this team won't be using it's 1st pick on a QB?

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 02-15-2010, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR

It would make a lot more sense if Weiss said that Cassel didn't have the physical tools. How can Weiss possibly judge Cassel in that regard already?

Cassel battled a ton of issues outside his control, and stayed pretty positive for the most part.

Cassel's mental toughness is the very least of my concerns.

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There's a lot of people on this website who have been talking about Cassel, and his lack of any poise as the year progressed. He looked scared back there frequently. Even after the line improved. I think he's a pussy. Looks like Weis agrees.

Brock · 02-15-2010, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

You can note it all you want, the odds of the Chiefs using the 5th pick this year on a QB is about the same as Hootie growing a brain.

I was actually being sarcastic, because I would never bother to note your opinion as if it meant anything. There's just too many "Kawika Mitchell's going to get 30 million dollars" posts under the bridge.

TRR · 02-15-2010, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Time will tell.

At least you got one thing right in your post. ;o)
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TRR · 02-15-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

There's a lot of people on this website who have been talking about Cassel, and his lack of any poise as the year progressed. He looked scared back there frequently. Even after the line improved. I think he's a pussy. Looks like Weis agrees.

Eloquently said.

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chiefzilla1501 · 02-15-2010, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Wouldn't you say it's a pretty safe assumption this team won't be using it's 1st pick on a QB?

I doubt they draft a QB there. But I don't think it will be because they were afraid to take another QB or because of politics.

If we follow Pioli's history, he likes to take QBs around the 2nd or 3rd. And frankly, I think there are a lot of teams that will be afraid to rate Clausen as a legit top 10 pick. Question that decision all you want. But that's a very different reason.

**Easy 6** · 02-15-2010, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I would be willing to bet that if somehow both QB's aren't gone by 5 the Chiefs attempt to move down, everyone will think the Chiefs are going to take the QB and we'll just be dropping out, Pioli is not going to take a QB top 5 basically admitting his pick of Cassel was an epic ****up.

I dont completely buy the angle that Pioli, regardless of investment made in Cassel, wouldnt insure the mission critical QB position with a kid that is very well known & liked by his talented & trusted comrade OC.

It wouldnt be an admission of anything, other than wanting to be as set as possible at QB. Cassel gets hurt or maybe he's still kinda grinding along a year & half from now...

chiefzilla1501 · 02-15-2010, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Hang on, now. It's almost 100 percent accepted that Clark was the reason why we had to **** around with Gailey for as long as we did, so I'm not as confident in his "hands-off" approach.

I don't think it's a secret that Clark Hunt would have liked to have kept Herm and felt guilty about pushing him out when Herm was promised time to gut the team. And one of those big decisions Herm made was to hire Chan Gailey, who would have been fired after one season. I doubt that he has the same kind of emotional attachment to Cassel. And I doubt he meddles much outside of the initial coaching decision.

**DeezNutz** · 02-15-2010, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I doubt they draft a QB there. But I don't think it will be because they were afraid to take another QB or because of politics.

If we follow Pioli's history, he likes to take QBs around the 2nd or 3rd. And frankly, I think there are a lot of teams that will be afraid to rate Clausen as a legit top 10 pick. Question that decision all you want. But that's a very different reason.

We can't follow Pioli's history because he's never been in the position to need to draft a QB high.

He went from having the #1 overall pick to the ****ing winning lottery ticket.

chiefzilla1501 · 02-15-2010, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

We can't follow Pioli's history because he's never been in the position to need to draft a QB high.

He went from having the #1 overall pick to the ****ing winning lottery ticket.

Good point.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 02-15-2010, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR

Eloquently said.

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LOL, did that offend you? Or were you just trying to discredit my post because you don't agree with it? Stay classy.

Mecca · 02-15-2010, 08:46 PM

Seriously Clausen's worse case scenario is Buffalo, same for Bradford they're both gone by 9 in a worst day for them scenario.

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Mr. Flopnuts FINALLY! The wait is over. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Future Is Now!!! Casino cash: $19947565	Interesting Chiefs News This comes from someone who has been an incredibly reliable source on this site in the past. Take it for what's it's worth. If Claussen falls to around the 20-25th pick the Chiefs may package their 2nd round picks to move up in the draft to take Claussen. Weiss is telling all teams that contact him about Claussen that he is the real deal. Claussen will play in the NFL for 10-15 years. Weiss is not sold on Cassell. He feels that he may not have the mental tools to be a successful QB without better players around him. He feels that he has the physical tools, but lacks the mental discipline thats needed to play the position. Both Haley and Pioli think Cassell will work out fine. So what is gonna happen? Weiss wants a quality backup in place behind Cassell to push him. Croyle is not that backup. Everyone at Arrrowhead knows Croyle is not a long term solution so he can't really push Cassell to excel. Enter Brady Quinn. The Chiefs had talks with Cleveland a couple of weeks ago about a trade to KC. But, the Browns trade demands were really stupidly high so the talks went no where seriously. If the demands come down, Quinn will be a Chief. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now the rest of this info is from other sources so get out that shaker of salt to take wth this information. Compiled from 4 different sources. Supposely Buffalo talked to the Chiefs about a trade for Croyle. Cleveland wanted the 2nd round pick plus a 5th rounder for Quinn. KC was willing to part with a 4th-5th rounder for Quinn. Which one would depend on playing time, Weiss and Cassell talk almost every day on the phone and in person. Long talks. Nothing new with the Bowe wants a new contract before the OTA's situation. But, the Chiefs have put out trade feelers to gauge interest in Bowe but most were 4th-5th rounders.
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