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Old 04-18-2010, 10:56 AM  
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Chiefs Are 'Badly' Trying To Trade Down To Middle Of First Round

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Chiefs Are 'Badly' Trying To Trade Down To Middle Of First*Round

by Joel Thorman on Apr 18, 2010 10:34 AM CDT in 2010 Campaign

Last year about this time, Michael Lombardi of the National Football Post first reported that the Chiefs were "in love" with LSU DE Tyson Jackson. A few days later and Jackson was the Chiefs pick in the draft.

Now Lombardi reports that the Chiefs are trying like hell to move down in the draft.

"The Chiefs are trying, and I mean really trying, to move down," Lombardi reports. "My sources tell me they'll be willing to go down as far as 15 for the right deal because they feel they can find a player in that range."

It's a fine line between trading down and trading down too far. According to Lombardi, our theory of the Eagles offering up the 24th and 37th picks for the Chiefs fifth pick doesn't look like it's happening. By staying around 15, they can still have a shot at a game changer -- Alabama LB Rolando McClain and Texas S Earl Thomas come to mind here -- as well as picking up extra selections.

That said, who's the Chiefs trading partner? SB Nation's Mocking The Draft takes an excellent look at this situation and comes to the conclusion that San Francisco might be the only team in that area that has a chance of moving up.

Lombardi reports the Chiefs are hoping someone wants to get in line to pick Notre Dame QB Jimmy Clausen.
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Old 04-18-2010, 01:24 PM   #151
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If Eric Berry is there at #5 and we pass on him for any other player or trade...Pioli, Haley, and co. can take "The Right 53" and shove up their collective asses because there isn't a player that epitomizes that more than Berry.
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Old 04-18-2010, 01:26 PM   #152
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Can you unpack that so it makes sense?
I'm just hearing so much about Berry that the sentiment is now, "Every player in the draft except Berry sucks." I don't think that's true.
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Old 04-18-2010, 01:27 PM   #153
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I have no reason to believe it's going to change.
Well, if you follow what the Patriots have done, it probably will. The Pats usually aren't heavy spenders for a few years, then they pick a year where they spend like crazy. Before they brought in Moss, Welker, and Adalius Thomas, they were pretty quiet the few offseasons prior.

I'm hoping that next year's that year when they really start to load up on marquee free agents.

But I'd rather they do most of that work in the draft, given that playmakers in the offseason are a dime a dozen.
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Old 04-18-2010, 01:30 PM   #154
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We will be the Browns of last year at 5 when Mangina got 3 scrubs from the Jets that he loved included with the picks.
As I've said in other threads, the Browns didn't do nearly as bad as people say. One of those 3 players was Abram Elam, who played pretty well for them last year at Safety. And there's a good chance they got a good starting Center and RB out of the trade. And if David Veikune ends up being a good 3-4 OLB, you can say they did very well in the trade.

If you actually look at the value Cleveland got, it's a trade I wish the Chiefs would have made.
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Old 04-18-2010, 01:30 PM   #155
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I'm kind of disappointed that there's no epic wide receiver in the #5 slot, and that it seems like Clauson isn't being viewed as an epic quarterback. It'd be nice if we had an easy decision.

Though the intrigue makes the week more exciting, I must admit.
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Old 04-18-2010, 01:33 PM   #156
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I'm just hearing so much about Berry that the sentiment is now, "Every player in the draft except Berry sucks." I don't think that's true.
I'm sorry, Rainman, but I don't think that is happening on this board. I don't know where you're getting that from.
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Old 04-18-2010, 01:35 PM   #157
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I'm kind of disappointed that there's no epic wide receiver in the #5 slot, and that it seems like Clauson isn't being viewed as an epic quarterback. It'd be nice if we had an easy decision.

Though the intrigue makes the week more exciting, I must admit.
I think we have potentially several easy decisions we could make.
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I'm kind of disappointed that there's no epic wide receiver in the #5 slot, and that it seems like Clauson isn't being viewed as an epic quarterback. It'd be nice if we had an easy decision.

Though the intrigue makes the week more exciting, I must admit.
I wanted an epic OLB. There may be one but according to the draft gurus there not worth the 5th pick. I'd love to see some of the draft boards of the 3-4 teams. I bet they're alot different from waht Kiper, McShay, Rang ect put up. With so many 3-4 teams(half the league?) the DE/OLB tweener type players are going to get picked earlier IMO.


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I'm just hearing so much about Berry that the sentiment is now, "Every player in the draft except Berry sucks." I don't think that's true.
I don't think that's happening at all, Kevin.

However, there are expectations from having a Top 5 pick.

One would expect to acquire an elite talent or franchise QB with that pick.

There are three elite talents in this draft, and two QB's that fit that description.

Two of those 5 players would be wasted in our scheme, don't fit a need, and hold no value at our pick - especially considering we've spent our last two Top 5 picks on that position.

One of the QB's will likely be off the board.

That leaves one of the elite talents (Berry) and one of the Franchise QB's. (Clausen)

To have a Top 5 pick and come away with neither would be a mistake of epic proportions.

You just can't pass on those types of prospects for lessor talent.
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The worst thing about trading down is that the true fan will lap it up.

Oh man, we get more picks later on and we STILL get a first-round pick! We can have our cake and eat it, too! With this influx of talent we might be able to back into the playoffs this year!

If the Chiefs draft a bunch of Tamba Halis this year and get to 8-8, support will skyrocket.

And sadly, I probably won't be able to resist the siren call of mediocrity. It's in my blood.
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I'm sorry, Rainman, but I don't think that is happening on this board. I don't know where you're getting that from.
I think it's from the 10,000 posts stating that Berry is a first-ballot hall of famer and the 12,000 posts stating that Bulaga sucks, Williams sucks, McClain sucks, Clausen sucks, Haden doesn't suck but would be a reach, other Williams sucks, Bryant sucks, and so on.
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The worst thing about trading down is that the true fan will lap it up.

Oh man, we get more picks later on and we STILL get a first-round pick! We can have our cake and eat it, too! With this influx of talent we might be able to back into the playoffs this year!

If the Chiefs draft a bunch of Tamba Halis this year and get to 8-8, support will skyrocket.

And sadly, I probably won't be able to resist the siren call of mediocrity. It's in my blood.
Christ, imagine if we trade down and take a RT and NT.

True Fan will act like we've won the Super Bowl.
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