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Old 04-26-2010, 03:57 PM  
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This is why we didn't focus on the front 7...
I said this during last year...and was always hit by a Hamas stat about how bad our rush defense was...

I always thought our biggest problem was our pass defense and our inability to get off the field on 3rd and long. I always cheered for the opposition to waste a 2nd down on a run play...because we were better in 3rd and 3 than we were in 3rd and 10 defensively...

Teams knew this too...our rush defense got a bad wrap because we were consistently losing by 2+ scores in the 4th quarter and teams like the Giants...who gashed us with the pass all game long...used their final possessions to bad their rushing stats...and the Ravens...and even the Cowboys game 1/4th of their rushing yards came on one long run (kind of like the Skins game when we shut down Portis minus one long run as well)...

The formula for beating us last year? A good passing game...and we made even marginal passing games look AMAZING. Just check this out:

Flacco 300+ yards (96 rating)

Oakland beat us averaging 2.7 YPC in week 2

Kolb 300 + yards (120 rating)

E. Manning 292 yards (104 rating)

Romo 350 yards (113 rating)

Rivers 270 yards (123 rating)

Garrard 270 yards (111 rating)

Rivers 300+ yards (136 rating)

Orton 180 yards (92 rating) 245 rush yards allowed

Edwards (66 rating) 200 rush yards allowed

Quinn (28 rating) 350 rush yards allowed

Palmer (92 rating) Benson 4.6 YPC

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Anyone see the trend here? It's nice that guys like OTWP like to conveniently ignore what we were REALLY bad at last year.
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Old 04-26-2010, 06:41 PM   #151
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Derrick Johnson is still today, the exact same guy he was when he was drafted, I think it's just time to admit, he's never gonna be a great player. I'll take average player that doesn't **** up at this point.
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Old 04-26-2010, 06:42 PM   #152
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See: DSM-IV - Projection, Distortion, Denial.
I need to see proof you aren't 5'9" or shorter...

At this point, until I see proof...I'm just going to assume you have little man's syndrome.
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Old 04-26-2010, 06:42 PM   #153
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OTWP's tried and true, "I've run out of arguments" post.
Run out of arguments?

This argument effectively ended at post 33.

I'm just sitting back and enjoying watching him dig a deeper hole and make an ass of himself.
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Old 04-26-2010, 06:42 PM   #154
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everyone's premise was wrong then...

we shouldn't be worried about Jerome Harrison if this is the case...

We should be worried about Joe Flacco, David Garrard, and Eli Manning...beatable QB's that had Peyton Manning like games against our defense last year...

We added playmakers to prevent that from happening...

So if teams think the best way to beat us is to beat us on the ground rather than through the air like last year...then sign me up! I rather see us lose because we can't stop the run than lose because we can't do anything, and our only prayer is that we get lucky and get a negative run here and there...but even if it's 3rd and 13 the opposition usually was good for a 15 yard pass last season...
Look for the last time, it does not matter what your secondary looks like if you have no pass rush you are going to get passed on.

The quickest way to play good defense is to defend the run and sack the QB, not to draft 5 CB's and cover for 10 seconds.
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Old 04-26-2010, 06:44 PM   #155
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either that or he wasn't very athletic...

he was one of those guys that tried to play all of the sports...gave it his best effort every time...gave his blood, sweat and tears to every program he played for in high school...but his physical shortcoming kept him from ever playing...all the while people who were lazier and couldn't give two shits got all of the playing time because of their natural abilities...

I know a guy like this...he's a great guy...one of the nicest people I know...but to this day he's never been able to shake the "little man's syndrome" he experienced in high school when everyone picked at him for being so unathletic and awkward.
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Another fact most seem to want to ignore is the 3-4 is traditionally a pass defense, not a run defense.
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I need to see proof you aren't 5'9" or shorter...

At this point, until I see proof...I'm just going to assume you have little man's syndrome.


When you can't win an argument, resort to "I'm taller than you."

FTR, I'm a fraction shy of 5-11.

Ask BRC, Phobia, Guru, Fish, Coach, Monty, Ari - they've all met me.*

*Here it comes, the "I was right because I'm close" post.
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Look for the last time, it does not matter what your secondary looks like if you have no pass rush you are going to get passed on.

The quickest way to play good defense is to defend the run and sack the QB, not to draft 5 CB's and cover for 10 seconds.
we drafted a once in a generation safety, a CB who was the most dynamic returner in college football, and another safety in the 5th round...

I don't know where or when we drafted 5 CB's...
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Another fact most seem to want to ignore is the 3-4 is traditionally a pass defense, not a run defense.
Would you like to explain to me how the Steelers and Ravens have generally had top 5 run defenses then?
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Look for the last time, it does not matter what your secondary looks like if you have no pass rush you are going to get passed on.

The quickest way to play good defense is to defend the run and sack the QB, not to draft 5 CB's and cover for 10 seconds.
Have you never heard of a coverage sack? It can go both ways. Good coverage makes the QB hold the ball that much longer. We need an improved pass rush I won't lie. It can't be only Hali. But not letting guys run wide open over the middle will help the pass rush.
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Would you like to explain to me how the Steelers and Ravens have generally had top 5 run defenses then?
I said "traditionally".
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it's hilarious how childish you react instead of just admitting your premise was wrong....
Let him go, it's ****ing hilarious.
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I enjoy how Hootie is just going to the "you're this and you're that" posts now, why don't you just tell OTW he looks funny and smells bad, it would be about the same.
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Would you like to explain to me how the Steelers and Ravens have generally had top 5 run defenses then?
BTW, both of those teams have a stud at the S position.
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you can't decouple problems in the run D and problems in the pass D...they stem from the same source, the front 7

of course Berry is going to help clean some of it up, but he can't keep it all from happening...


pressure on the QB is the way you disrupt passing offenses in the league now...something we are terrible at....it's why flowers looks good instead of great, why Carr looks bad instead of decent, and why Berry will look less than "great" for awhile even as he makes some great plays
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