NFL Draft Even while McCluster succeeds, this continues to be my concern about that pick... - Page 11

Direckshun · 10-04-2010, 03:07 PM

He is a gadget guy, yes. Who can provide tons of different things for your offense. And he's someone who can contribute immediately.

But is he someone you can build around?

I hesitate still, even now, to say yes.

What's the track record of really small football players in the NFL?

Don't they typically peter out after a few years? Even if they are very good -- as Sproles, a thicker back than McCluster, was very good -- won't they eventually flame out in a few years, rather than providing the sustained level of ability that virtually any other position on the football field would?

I am prepared to endure your scorn.

Hootie · 10-04-2010, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

I dunno I was talking to Trent Dilfer the other day. He liked Steve Bono.

I get your point, and I agree to a point. However, I mean Eli freaking manning won a superbowl.

Eli Manning was unbelievably good that entire postseason.

Eli Manning is also unbelievably underrated around here...just like Tony Romo.

**alpha_omega** · 10-04-2010, 08:15 PM

I suppose...

Take the playmaker, but be ready to find the next guy.
It appears they hit on Mcc, but it's only been 3 games.

**Saul Good** · 10-04-2010, 08:28 PM

1. The NFL is a right now league. You draft a player hoping that he will make an impact at any point in his career. You don't really have the luxury to expect that a player is going to be on your team for a decade.

2. The only glaring need is QB, and next year's draft looks to be loaded at that position.

3. Dex is the kind of player that can open up the field for the rest of the players because he commands attention.

I wanted Berry, Cody, and Clausen with our picks, but I don't know that I would trade what we got for those guys now.

**Bob Dole** · 10-04-2010, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Eli Manning was unbelievably good that entire postseason.

Eli Manning is also unbelievably underrated around here...just like Tony Romo.

TONY ROMO!!!

Hoover · 10-04-2010, 08:36 PM

I'm sorry but after seeing what NE has done with guys like Kevin Faulk and Welker, these small guys can make a huge difference while not breaking the bank.

SenselessChiefsFan · 10-04-2010, 08:39 PM

Running backs flame out in a few years too. Should they avoid taking them?

The reality is that if there is a play-maker that provides your offense or defense something that you don't already have.... then you draft that player. The key is having an offensive coordinator that is imaginative enough to fully utilize him.

Deberg_1990 · 10-04-2010, 08:41 PM

If he has even half the career Kevin Faulk had, it will be a good pick.

BWillie · 10-04-2010, 08:55 PM

Warrick Dunn worked out fine although he doesn't play the same way as Run DMC,...Dunn was little and still ran between the tackles. He really didn't have too many issues.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-04-2010, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

If he has even half the career Kevin Faulk had, it will be a good pick.

Shhhhh!

I made that claim a few weeks ago and got railed for it. Any Pats' fan knows this is completely true. He wasn't flashy, but he's been a critical piece to that Pats offense for years.

Pitt Gorilla · 10-04-2010, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Be a dominant nose tackle?

You can hope that is going to happen, but where is the evidence? DMC is doing it now.

**BossChief** · 10-04-2010, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

We have what every good team has.... a running game

Teams like Denver that cannot run the ball are not going to last

If given a choice between a great running game or a great QB I take the running game hands down.

You'd be surprised what a stout defense coupled with a stout running game and an average QB can do.

This post is evidence of how badly Carl brainwshed this fanbase.

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

How so?

ravens?

chiefs during the 90's?

The "we need a qbotf" crowd rests its case.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-04-2010, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

This post is evidence of how badly Carl brainwshed this fanbase.

The "we need a qbotf" crowd rests its case.

Well, one direction I will disagree with is that a lot of people seem to be implying that the new NFL is focusing on aerial, high-flying offenses and that isn't necessarily the case. I think there's a lot to be said for getting your team to the Super Bowl with a dominant defense and a dominant running game. I disagree with the thought that we should even try to do that with average QB play.

But if we're talking about a dominant running game and dominant defense and a very good QB to serve as more of a game manager, I don't think there's any problem with that.

**DeezNutz** · 10-04-2010, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

You can hope that is going to happen, but where is the evidence? DMC is doing it now.

He's dominant right now? Granted, he was stellar in Cleveland.

Rasputin · 10-04-2010, 11:12 PM

I think Dex is going to be great and reliable for us for a long time. He will exede anything Dante Hall has done for us on ST returns and playing offense. I'm hoping he is utilized more on offense than on ST. Arenus is good returner.

I'd like to see Berry get a few kick returns to mix up the rotation & keep opposition off guard even more.

Our team is only getting better with every game we play. Wins will start to come in bunches as this team starts to click on all cylinders. We got so many young tallented players and 3 outstanding coaches to coach them up for sundays. I am stoked beyond what I was at the beginning of the season. Just gonna get better, maybe have a few set backs along the way, but this team will over come and learn. We got players stepping up like B Richardson, Studebaker, Belcher that wean't apart of much this team last year. Our O line is improved and our defense is also impoved. What more can we ask for at this point?

QBotf

Sure-Oz · 10-04-2010, 11:14 PM

We better trade McCluster after this season hes doomed

10-04-2010, 03:07 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Even while McCluster succeeds, this continues to be my concern about that pick... He is a gadget guy, yes. Who can provide tons of different things for your offense. And he's someone who can contribute immediately. But is he someone you can build around? I hesitate still, even now, to say yes. What's the track record of really small football players in the NFL? Don't they typically peter out after a few years? Even if they are very good -- as Sproles, a thicker back than McCluster, was very good -- won't they eventually flame out in a few years, rather than providing the sustained level of ability that virtually any other position on the football field would? I am prepared to endure your scorn.
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alpha_omega Supporter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Liberty Casino cash: $-1830000	I suppose... Take the playmaker, but be ready to find the next guy. It appears they hit on Mcc, but it's only been 3 games.
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10-04-2010, 08:28 PM	#153
Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning Casino cash: $10052799	1. The NFL is a right now league. You draft a player hoping that he will make an impact at any point in his career. You don't really have the luxury to expect that a player is going to be on your team for a decade. 2. The only glaring need is QB, and next year's draft looks to be loaded at that position. 3. Dex is the kind of player that can open up the field for the rest of the players because he commands attention. I wanted Berry, Cody, and Clausen with our picks, but I don't know that I would trade what we got for those guys now. __________________ Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
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10-04-2010, 08:36 PM	#155
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-2191821	I'm sorry but after seeing what NE has done with guys like Kevin Faulk and Welker, these small guys can make a huge difference while not breaking the bank.
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SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	Running backs flame out in a few years too. Should they avoid taking them? The reality is that if there is a play-maker that provides your offense or defense something that you don't already have.... then you draft that player. The key is having an offensive coordinator that is imaginative enough to fully utilize him. __________________ A bad day at the gym is better than a good day on the Couch.
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BWillie Are you ready to Rumble? Join Date: Apr 2006 Casino cash: $-1508759	Warrick Dunn worked out fine although he doesn't play the same way as Run DMC,...Dunn was little and still ran between the tackles. He really didn't have too many issues.
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10-04-2010, 11:12 PM	#164
Rasputin Tip of the hat LIV Champs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ks Casino cash: $5421	I think Dex is going to be great and reliable for us for a long time. He will exede anything Dante Hall has done for us on ST returns and playing offense. I'm hoping he is utilized more on offense than on ST. Arenus is good returner. I'd like to see Berry get a few kick returns to mix up the rotation & keep opposition off guard even more. Our team is only getting better with every game we play. Wins will start to come in bunches as this team starts to click on all cylinders. We got so many young tallented players and 3 outstanding coaches to coach them up for sundays. I am stoked beyond what I was at the beginning of the season. Just gonna get better, maybe have a few set backs along the way, but this team will over come and learn. We got players stepping up like B Richardson, Studebaker, Belcher that wean't apart of much this team last year. Our O line is improved and our defense is also impoved. What more can we ask for at this point? QBotf
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