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Old 02-22-2013, 10:32 PM  
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Joeckel vs. Alberts
I know I probably misspelled his name but I want to get everyones true opinion of Joeckel. We want to sign Alberts but I believe most on here are in agreement that he isn't worth top 5 money. At the moment we don't know his demands.

Ever since Alberts was drafted we have debated on here whether or not he should be playing T or G. Mostly because he was a G in college. Most on here would agree that he is a pretty solid LT just not elite.

With that being said.........how does everyone really feel about potentially having a prototipical LT in Joeckel? Put the whole QB situation aside for a minute and just think of the OL.

If we came out of the draft with Joeckel and potentially Barkley if we traded back up or he fell for some reason then wouldn't that be a great start?
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Old 02-23-2013, 01:30 AM   #151
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I don't have a problem with your conclusion, but I have three problems with the other things you said.

1. Drafting Joeckel and keeping Albert wouldn't be a short term move though. It would be a long term move because the centerpiece would be that you're theoretically improving LT while getting 5 years younger.

2. Whether he plays G or T, Branden Albert will be eating up the same amount of cap space and preventing the signing of the same free agents.

3. I'm also not sure why you say so emphatically that Rodney Hudson was a better guard in college than Branden Albert.
Iirc whic I may not, Albert moved to guard to allow ferguson or Monroe to play lt, he was good, Hudson was an all American and was rated highly coming out.

Yes joeckel would be a long te move.
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Old 02-23-2013, 01:30 AM   #152
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Because he was?
Convincing argument.
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Old 02-23-2013, 01:32 AM   #153
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That's already been mentioned. Albert will either be signed or tagged before the draft in all likelihood.
Then that would likely take joeckel out of the discussion all together, if the intend on playing Albert at lt. If not, based on this offseason, he will play lt elsewhere. He's said he won't play guard
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Old 02-23-2013, 01:33 AM   #154
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Iirc whic I may not, Albert moved to guard to allow ferguson or Monroe to play lt, he was good, Hudson was an all American and was rated highly coming out.

Yes joeckel would be a long te move.
Ok, thanks.
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Then that would likely take joeckel out of the discussion all together, if the intend on playing Albert at lt. If not, based on this offseason, he will play lt elsewhere. He's said he won't play guard
I think the chances of it happening are pretty tiny to begin with. But once they sign Albert, he'll play where they tell him to play. He may not be happy about it, but he's not going to sit out and forfeit his payday. Alternatively, they could play Albert at LT and let Joeckel start his career at G or RT for a year before making the switch.
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If they are signing or tagging Albert its likely to play lt, hence we will probably look elsewhere at #1.


At this point I don't know what they look at there though so anyone's guess is as good as mine
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I think the chances of it happening are pretty tiny to begin with. But once they sign Albert, he'll play where they tell him to play. He may not be happy about it, but he's not going to sit out and forfeit his payday. Alternatively, they could play Albert at LT and let Joeckel start his career at G or RT for a year before making the switch.
I don't think he'd sign without knowing their intentions. Wouldn't be setting a very good example for future free agents to do that to him.


And joeckel to my knowledge has never played eithe spot so that's probably not working out.
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I don't think he'd sign without knowing their intentions. Wouldn't be setting a very good example for future free agents to do that to him.
I agree with that.

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And joeckel to my knowledge has never played eithe spot so that's probably not working out.
I don't think it will happen, but I don't agree that his lack of experience is much of an obstacle.
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Signing/tagging Albert AND drafting Joeckel would be so incredibly dumb.

A huge ****ing waste of a 1st rd pick.
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You'd have to be a buffoon to want the team to not resign Albert only to blow the number one pick by not improving a 2-14 team with it.
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Who the **** is Alberts?

Why is our fan base comprised of 2/3 reeruns?
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First, what no one even begins note, is that last season was only Albert's 4th season in his playing career at the. LT position.

He had to learn on the job essentially, and has just started to touch his potential.
He still has more upside, and hasn't even come close to reaching his cceiling, and he is already a top LT.

If you want to argue that Joekel. Has more potential, I would disagree with argument.

Second, to patteau's idea, it simply is not a sound financial decision.

Forget the fact that you'd be paying LT money to guard.

With your plan, with the rookie slotting, you would be committing 15 to 16 mil a year to just 2 line positions.

Not a sound Llotment of.
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