Dontari Poe will miss camp due to back injury

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

I know I'll get raked over the coals for this, but Sutton did a good job adjusting to life without Devito, Berry, and DJ. It took a few games to get it where it needed to be, but we were one of the top defenses last year.

While I understand that without the anchor to your defense, a lot goes out the window, but I'm curious to see how, with the amount of time given to adjust, they maximize our players' strengths to minimize the loss of Poe.

At least we have time to work it out, as opposed to adjusting on the fly.

Agreed.

He's clearly a freak and huge part of our D.

That said it's one of the few areas we can sub a guy in and not have huge suck occur. We have b/u guys decent vs the run and at least one draft pick we plan to rotate there and on the DE spot.

I guess he sucks up more NT snaps now...

[SeeingRed]

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

I know I'll get raked over the coals for this, but Sutton did a good job adjusting to life without Devito, Berry, and DJ. It took a few games to get it where it needed to be, but we were one of the top defenses last year.

While I understand that without the anchor to your defense, a lot goes out the window, but I'm curious to see how, with the amount of time given to adjust, they maximize our players' strengths to minimize the loss of Poe.

At least we have time to work it out, as opposed to adjusting on the fly.

Ya, no...the defense without Poe isn't as good as they are with Poe....its very simple. Doesn't mean they still can be good, but just not as good....there's no way. Can't replace that guy.

[Discuss Thrower]

Love how people think back surgery is no more serious than an ankle sprain here.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Love how people think back surgery is no more serious than an ankle sprain here.

Exactly! A voice of reason... Its serious for anyone but especially so for those who weigh a lot.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Love how people think back surgery is no more serious than an ankle sprain here.

Yeah, I'm not going to sit here and get into an argument with the "Pft...look at the CP doctors" crowd.

If anyone has ever had a back issue or spoken with back surgeons, they know that this isn't bullshit. My ortho worked for the US Olympic team and does a lot of Mizzou's stuff - the guy knows his shit and I'm pretty comfortable with the information I have from him.

This isn't something he's going to just shake off - the mechanics of the human body won't allow it. And maybe he'll be able to play through/around it. He may even get back to performing at similar levels. He was so good to begin with, even a diminished Poe will still be a top level starter.

But a lot of people are whistling past the graveyard here. "Oh, well this could just keep him fresh...it's probably a good thing"

I'd have rather he blown out his knee.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yeah, I'm not going to sit here and get into an argument with the "Pft...look at the CP doctors" crowd.

If anyone has ever had a back issue or spoken with back surgeons, they know that this isn't bullshit. My ortho worked for the US Olympic team and does a lot of Mizzou's stuff - the guy knows his shit and I'm pretty comfortable with the information I have from him.

This isn't something he's going to just shake off - the mechanics of the human body won't allow it. And maybe he'll be able to play through/around it. He may even get back to performing at similar levels. He was so good to begin with, even a diminished Poe will still be a top level starter.

But a lot of people are whistling past the graveyard here. "Oh, well this could just keep him fresh...it's probably a good thing"

I'd have rather he blown out his knee.

Exactly the case. All those who think his back will heal quickly b/c he is an "elite athlete" are wrong. You cant really expedite the healing process for his type of injury. Its not like you can give him more meds. You can only do so much within a time range. Its more likely that this season will be a wash with him than it is that he'll play at a high level. The reality is, there is a chance he could miss more time than he plays.

[Discuss Thrower]

As someone else posted, it's pretty safe to write off Poe for the season as being some sort of difference maker on defense.

Back surgery as a 300lb+ man who relies on brute strength to do his job on the field? There's no way he's going to be the type of player he's shown himself to be the last two seasons.

NB4 "durr but Eric Berry beat cancer!" posts.

[Urc Burry]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

As someone else posted, it's pretty safe to write off Poe for the season as being some sort of difference maker on defense.

Back surgery as a 300lb+ man who relies on brute strength to do his job on the field? There's no way he's going to be the type of player he's shown himself to be the last two seasons.

NB4 "durr but Eric Berry beat cancer!" posts.

Well I disagree that he won't be a difference maker this year. I would almost rather he comes back around week 6 then rush it and be ready early. But even at his 80% he's better than most NT's in the league.

I think for the future it would benefit him greatly to get down to the 320 range as opposed to 345

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

As someone else posted, it's pretty safe to write off Poe for the season as being some sort of difference maker on defense.

Back surgery as a 300lb+ man who relies on brute strength to do his job on the field? There's no way he's going to be the type of player he's shown himself to be the last two seasons.

NB4 "durr but Eric Berry beat cancer!" posts.

You speak in alot of absolutes

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by O.city

You speak in alot of absolutes

I think it's a coping mechanism. He's been let down in life so many times that he's adopted the "sky is falling" worldview. It keeps expectations low and ultimately minimizes the pain.

[Easy 6]

[RealSNR]

Durr but Eric Berry beat cancer

[Three7s]

Originally Posted by SNR

Durr but Eric Berry beat cancer

Bastard, you beat me to it.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Three7s

Bastard, you beat me to it.

Only beat ya by 3 hours. You were so close, bro.

[BossChief]

Our run defense has been crap with Poe....is it possible our run d improves with Poe missing time, similarly to how the pass defense improved...largely without Berry?..