Chiefs That was our best shot and we missed it - Page 11

staylor26 · 01-22-2019, 05:29 AM

I know it sounds irrational because it was essentially just year 1 for Mahomes, but this was probably our best ****ing shot and we failed (because of a ****ing offsides penalty). We have two more years of Mahomes on his rookie deal (he’ll get paid before year 5), and I just feel like it’s unlikely that we get the 1st seed with a relatively injury free season again before it’s time to pay up.

O.city · 01-22-2019, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Pats also have a lot of cap room and draft picks

In terms of ability to get better, we probably have the biggest challenge.

Nah, not really.

Hell, our defense was literally the worst in the league. They can't get much worse really.

Sassy Squatch · 01-22-2019, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Pats also have a lot of cap room and draft picks

In terms of ability to get better, we probably have the biggest challenge.

Seems like you're just desperate to convince yourself we're doomed.

staylor26 · 01-22-2019, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Nah, not really.

Hell, our defense was literally the worst in the league. They can't get much worse really.

I mean in terms of draft picks and cap room.

Jerm · 01-22-2019, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

A 37-31 OT loss against a team that is going to it's like 11th Super Bowl in 20 years.

Do you know what the definition of "squander" is?

We'll have to agree to disagree because I believe allowing Bob Sutton to stay was foolish and reckless (there's your definition) and directly led to us losing the game...hence squandering.

I know you don't believe that though and that's fine.

O.city · 01-22-2019, 10:06 AM

The Steelers are imploding and I just can't sell myself on the Chargers being anything. I think Rivers may be falling off the cliff physically so I'm not gonna be overly worried.

The Colts are somewhat scary in that they have so much cap space and Ballard is good, but I'm not convinced on Luck being healthy.

It's hard to win fellas. That's why you just want to continually give yourself chances.

O.city · 01-22-2019, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

I mean in terms of draft picks and cap room.

We definitely don't have the cap room some of them do, but we also have a 23 year old phenom MVP at QB.

I'll take my chances.

mcaj22 · 01-22-2019, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I'd imagine they'll pretty much have to do something with Berry and Houston's money. I don't know what but they can't do that again.

Hitchens is just weird to me. He never played in Dallas like he did this year.

What do you think they do here? Restructure? June 1st cuts? Trade?

I have no idea, but if they sit still and do nothing I don't have high hopes of the flexibility to make the defense better (cause there will be none)

Jerm · 01-22-2019, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

The Steelers are imploding and I just can't sell myself on the Chargers being anything. I think Rivers may be falling off the cliff physically so I'm not gonna be overly worried.

The Colts are somewhat scary in that they have so much cap space and Ballard is good, but I'm not convinced on Luck being healthy.

It's hard to win fellas. That's why you just want to continually give yourself chances.

...and with 15 we'll always have that. It's a great feeling.

**fan4ever** · 01-22-2019, 10:08 AM

I really see both sides of this argument. "Squander" is the wrong word but thinking you're going to get to this level on a consistent basis is very optimistic...especially if you're a Chief's fan. Never seen a team so snake bitten. So many things could have gone our way that didn't over the course of our team's history.

RaidersOftheCellar · 01-22-2019, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy

We did get lucky with no real injuries to Mahomes, Hill, or Kelce. Yeah, I know we lost Hunt and Watkins was out a LOT, but injuries to any of those 3 would just kill us. What's going to happen if/when the O gets severely crippled? The d can't pick up the slack, that's for sure.

We lost our starting RB and our second-best wideout for half the season, plus the biggest star on the defense for nearly the entire year. I don't consider that great luck.

With the cap room and draft picks they have, and likely a new DC, there's no reason that they can't turn the defense around quickly. Contrary to what people think (of course they flip-flop every week), there are plenty of pieces to work with. They're just in the hands of someone who does not fully utilize their talents. There's a reason that Hitchens went from a star to a dud after joining the Chiefs.

This team could be a juggernaut next year with the right moves.

O.city · 01-22-2019, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

What do you think they do here? Restructure? June 1st cuts? Trade?

I don't know. I can't imagine they'll trade any of them.

I'm fine with Houston. That's a big number, but he's still a really good player.

Berry just can't not play. You can't do that again. I don't know what happens there.

Hitchens is a mystery to me. He was a really good player in Dallas. I guess be hopeful the new DC uses him better?

gold_and_red · 01-22-2019, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Patriots W-L percentage is about the same inside and outside the division, so yeah, not really. But whatever makes you feel better.

Just ask the 12-4 Chargers how they felt on the road in the divisional round only because another team won their division.

htismaqe · 01-22-2019, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerm

We'll have to agree to disagree because I believe allowing Bob Sutton to stay was foolish and reckless (there's your definition) and directly led to us losing the game...hence squandering.

I know you don't believe that though and that's fine.

We can agree that it was a bad idea. "Foolish and reckless"? I don't know if I'd go that far. But we're closer to agreeing than you think.

mcaj22 · 01-22-2019, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I don't know. I can't imagine they'll trade any of them.

I'm fine with Houston. That's a big number, but he's still a really good player.

Berry just can't not play. You can't do that again. I don't know what happens there.

Hitchens is a mystery to me. He was a really good player in Dallas. I guess be hopeful the new DC uses him better?

Then they probably need a scheme change to justify the values of what they are paying some of these players. Move Houston around more similar to how the Patriots move their front 7 guys around. Don't have him on the same side of the field all game doing nonsense roles you can get a 4th round pick to do.

Hitchens needs help, new scheme, new teammates next to him, everything.

I agree with that Berry might be a complete sunk cost. He looks toast.

htismaqe · 01-22-2019, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

Then they probably need a scheme change to justify the values of what they are paying some of these players. Move Houston around more similar to how the Patriots move their front 7 guys around. Don't have him on the same side of the field all game doing nonsense roles you can get a 4th round pick to do.

Hitchens needs help, new scheme, new teammates next to him, everything.

I agree with that Berry might be a complete sunk cost. He looks toast.

All of this.

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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-555936	The Steelers are imploding and I just can't sell myself on the Chargers being anything. I think Rivers may be falling off the cliff physically so I'm not gonna be overly worried. The Colts are somewhat scary in that they have so much cap space and Ballard is good, but I'm not convinced on Luck being healthy. It's hard to win fellas. That's why you just want to continually give yourself chances.
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fan4ever Supporter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Casino cash: $4234389	I really see both sides of this argument. "Squander" is the wrong word but thinking you're going to get to this level on a consistent basis is very optimistic...especially if you're a Chief's fan. Never seen a team so snake bitten. So many things could have gone our way that didn't over the course of our team's history. __________________ "You will never reach your destination if you stop and throw rocks at every dog that barks" - Winston Churchill
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