Football Owners approve new CBA - Page 11

**dirk digler** · 02-21-2020, 07:12 AM

As I said from the beginning when this was leaked it was a bad deal for the players and they would be dumb to accept it.

If you want 17 or more games, remove the 250k max (yes I know it is just temporary), remove the inactive list and let all players including practice squad players be active, and give lifetime health benefits. Otherwise I would vote no.

dlphg9 · 02-20-2020, 09:49 PM

What kind of negotiations would this be if they just took 1st offer. Also there was no way in hell these guys were adding an extra game just to make at most $250,000. Why the hell would they agree to making the owners a shit ton more money and the players take less than usual. Lots of you acting like the cap on paycheck won't effect many people, but there are lots of guys that make over $4 mil/year and make more than $250k a game.

**SAUTO** · 02-20-2020, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9

What kind of negotiations would this be if they just took 1st offer. Also there was no way in hell these guys were adding an extra game just to make at most $250,000. Why the hell would they agree to making the owners a shit ton more money and the players take less than usual. Lots of you acting like the cap on paycheck won't effect many people, but there are lots of guys that make over $4 mil/year and make more than $250k a game.

It wouldn’t start for several years. Most contracts would be up by then

DRM08 · 02-20-2020, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9

What kind of negotiations would this be if they just took 1st offer. Also there was no way in hell these guys were adding an extra game just to make at most $250,000. Why the hell would they agree to making the owners a shit ton more money and the players take less than usual. Lots of you acting like the cap on paycheck won't effect many people, but there are lots of guys that make over $4 mil/year and make more than $250k a game.

365 of them on Spotrac are higher than $4M salary ($250k per game).

**SAUTO** · 02-20-2020, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08

365 of them on Spotrac are higher than $4M salary ($250k per game).

How many are in 2-3 years right now?

IowaHawkeyeChief · 02-21-2020, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9

What kind of negotiations would this be if they just took 1st offer. Also there was no way in hell these guys were adding an extra game just to make at most $250,000. Why the hell would they agree to making the owners a shit ton more money and the players take less than usual. Lots of you acting like the cap on paycheck won't effect many people, but there are lots of guys that make over $4 mil/year and make more than $250k a game.

This isn't the first offer, this agreement was jointly agreed to by the owners and NFLPA leadership after months of negotiations. This is a final product. It is now going to the larger groups to approve, with the owners going first, and it passed. IT now moves on to the players. This deal really appeals to the lower paid mass of players and has a great chance of passing. However, I think they will stumble on a few things... First being salary for 17th game. I believe this will ultimately be pro-rated based on current contracts per game with a slight adjustment for one less pre-season game. Also, the 10 year period of the agreement may be a sticking point.

Mecca · 02-21-2020, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

This isn't the first offer, this agreement was jointly agreed to by the owners and NFLPA leadership after months of negotiations. This is a final product. It is now going to the larger groups to approve, with the owners going first, and it passed. IT now moves on to the players. This deal really appeals to the lower paid mass of players and has a great chance of passing. However, I think they will stumble on a few things... First being salary for 17th game. I believe this will ultimately be pro-rated based on current contracts per game with a slight adjustment for one less pre-season game. Also, the 10 year period of the agreement may be a sticking point.

We'll see how this plays out but it isn't helpful lots of players and media members are calling it a turd of a deal.

kevrunner · 02-20-2020, 11:11 PM

The 250K for week 17th will never be agreed to by the player reps. Just won’t happen.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! · 02-21-2020, 12:38 AM

Palmer says we will tag Jones and possible re sign Fuller

The #Chiefs will have to figure some things out on defense this offseason in terms of free agency. But they're not in trouble. I explained why on @nflnetwork today. pic.twitter.com/060YkTQwVB
— James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) February 21, 2020

**BigRedChief** · 02-21-2020, 07:26 AM

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Palmer says we will tag Jones and possible re sign Fuller

I get tag Jones but Fuller? Thornhill should be back with honey badger and Sorenson as a 3rd safety. Breeland wants his money so he's gone. We need a CB, not a safety.

Fuller was way better playing safety but its just not a need and we are always going to be up against the cap from now on until Mahomes retires. Hard choice need to be made. This is low hanging fruit.

Hoover · 02-21-2020, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I get tag Jones but Fuller? Thornhill should be back with honey badger and Sorenson as a 3rd safety. Breeland wants his money so he's gone. We need a CB, not a safety.

Fuller was way better playing safety but its just not a need and we are always going to be up against the cap from now on until Mahomes retires. Hard choice need to be made. This is low hanging fruit.

I think Spags is the Joe Madden of the NFL, he loves flexibility. Having someone like Fuller allows him to do more stuff, which is important with the Honey Badger.

Mecca · 02-21-2020, 09:40 AM

You sure get the feeling the players are going to vote down the the new CBA agreement. Not enough support for 17 games.
— John Clayton (@JohnClaytonNFL) February 21, 2020

Gravedigger · 02-21-2020, 09:42 AM

Taking the bye week away for the 2 seed and replacing it with a home game instead takes a week of rest directly from the players and gives it to the owner's pocketbooks. It also takes a week away from the home fans pocketbooks as well. That puts the players of the Chiefs as having to play a 21 game regular season to win the Super Bowl. Also I don't normally quote Fescoe but he brought up the point that what happens with that extra regular season game, which team is the home team? Who's gets 9 home games vs 8 away games instead of the other way around? Is it going to be played at a neutral site?

Gravedigger · 02-21-2020, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

You sure get the feeling the players are going to vote down the the new CBA agreement. Not enough support for 17 games.
— John Clayton (@JohnClaytonNFL) February 21, 2020

Hard no on that proposed CBA.
— JJ Watt (@JJWatt) February 21, 2020

JJ Watt didn't seem to like it last night.

Mecca · 02-21-2020, 09:50 AM

The talk of the NFL right now is the CBA negotiations and the players and the NFLPA are throwing out some hard no's right now #PatMcAfeeShowLIVE pic.twitter.com/2cSVNKpHBj
— Pat McAfee (@PatMcAfeeShow) February 21, 2020

This is a really good watch.

02-21-2020, 07:12 AM	#1
dirk digler Please squeeze Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Clinton, MO Casino cash: $44644	As I said from the beginning when this was leaked it was a bad deal for the players and they would be dumb to accept it. If you want 17 or more games, remove the 250k max (yes I know it is just temporary), remove the inactive list and let all players including practice squad players be active, and give lifetime health benefits. Otherwise I would vote no.
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dlphg9 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $-1750347	What kind of negotiations would this be if they just took 1st offer. Also there was no way in hell these guys were adding an extra game just to make at most $250,000. Why the hell would they agree to making the owners a shit ton more money and the players take less than usual. Lots of you acting like the cap on paycheck won't effect many people, but there are lots of guys that make over $4 mil/year and make more than $250k a game.
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kevrunner Starter Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Virginia Casino cash: $-669600	The 250K for week 17th will never be agreed to by the player reps. Just won’t happen.
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VAGOMO 4 LIFE! In Search of a Life Join Date: Nov 2018 Casino cash: $6350400	Palmer says we will tag Jones and possible re sign Fuller The #Chiefs will have to figure some things out on defense this offseason in terms of free agency. But they're not in trouble. I explained why on @nflnetwork today. pic.twitter.com/060YkTQwVB — James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) February 21, 2020
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-802950	You sure get the feeling the players are going to vote down the the new CBA agreement. Not enough support for 17 games. — John Clayton (@JohnClaytonNFL) February 21, 2020
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Gravedigger Plays to win the game! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $6473101	Taking the bye week away for the 2 seed and replacing it with a home game instead takes a week of rest directly from the players and gives it to the owner's pocketbooks. It also takes a week away from the home fans pocketbooks as well. That puts the players of the Chiefs as having to play a 21 game regular season to win the Super Bowl. Also I don't normally quote Fescoe but he brought up the point that what happens with that extra regular season game, which team is the home team? Who's gets 9 home games vs 8 away games instead of the other way around? Is it going to be played at a neutral site? Last edited by Gravedigger; 02-21-2020 at 09:47 AM..
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-802950	The talk of the NFL right now is the CBA negotiations and the players and the NFLPA are throwing out some hard no's right now #PatMcAfeeShowLIVE pic.twitter.com/2cSVNKpHBj — Pat McAfee (@PatMcAfeeShow) February 21, 2020 This is a really good watch.
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