Anthony Lynn says Chargers are going back to Tyrod

[staylor26]

Anthony Lynn elaborating on why Tyrod Taylor is still his starter: "There's a lot we didn't get done with Justin on the field yesterday. He's a backup for a reason." #Chargers

— Daniel Popper (@danielrpopper) September 21, 2020

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Turdrod lost to the Beakers in a bowl game, he's that bad

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by PurpleRiders51

Herbert comes in on short notice in the second week of his rookie season and takes it to the defending champions forcing OT. And what does his coach say about his performance? "We lost the game didn't we?" (paraphrasing) & "He's a backup for a reason." This may be the dumbest thing I've ever heard a NFL coach say. Way to wreck the rookie's confidence/ego after what the rest of the world saw as a good game. LAC would do well to get rid of this guy asap.

Ya know, I've never agreed with this line of thinking and I find it amusing, particularly among the old timer crowd, with all of the wailing about raising softer generations.

Is what Lynn said really an issue? He's right. Herbert isn't ready. Herbert himself would probably agree with that assessment. If his coach publicly telling the truth kills this kid's confidence, then he's weak anyway and needs to toughen up.

[htismaqe]

Herbert threw another horrible bonehead pick that cost them the game. We're not having this conversation again.

If you want to think he's good, more power to you. You care way more about another team's QB than I do.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Herbert threw another horrible bonehead pick that cost them the game. We're not having this conversation again.

If you want to think he's good, more power to you. You care way more about another team's QB than I do.

Toxing loves to come around every now and then to slurp the Chargers dry. Thought it might end post Rivers, but alas. Same garbage football team that can't win close games.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Herbert threw another horrible bonehead pick that cost them the game. We're not having this conversation again.

If you want to think he's good, more power to you. You care way more about another team's QB than I do.

That's what rookies gonna do. The only reason to not start Herbert is if you think tyrod actually gives you a chance at a super bowl (doubtful) or if you worry that these mistakes will stunt his development.

I am way more on the aggressive side of letting the kid make mistakes. Josh allen made a lot of boneheaded mistakes and took a playoff team to 5-6 his rookie year. He was not any less ready than herbert is right now.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Did you watch the game? I completely disagree yet again.

The Chargers charger'd the shit out of that game and Keenan Allen dropped some key passes that kept them from winning, or at the very least putting it into O/T.

The Chargers asked their rookie QB to drop back 49 times and he still completed 71% of his passes for 330 yards.

Again, what constitutes "Good"?

If Keenan Allen catches a simple screen pass for an easy 2pt conversion that game likely goes to OT at the very least.

Herbert had a boneheaded INT and a fumble where his tackle got ran by, outside of that, again he looked pretty good.

If you're a Chargers fan I think there were things to like, but you're definitely underselling that INT.

His running game supported him by averaging nearly 5 YPC and he attempted 50 passes with only 1 TD. He's got one of the best sets of offensive skill position weapons in the league and yet he got outdeuled by Teddy Bridgewaer and a bunch of bums.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Herbert threw another horrible bonehead pick that cost them the game. We're not having this conversation again.

If you want to think he's good, more power to you. You care way more about another team's QB than I do.

We're having a conversation about analysis of a young QB.

He threw a bonehead pick yeah, it's what rookie QB's do.

But consider the context of the game before yet again blaming a rookie QB:

1. The Chargers turned the ball over 4 times. 1 of which was specifically the QB's fault.

2. The Chargers amassed a number a costly, poorly timed penalties.

3. The Chargers had a number of dropped passes, including a failed 2 point conversion off a Keenan Allen Drop that would've allowed the game to go into OT with a FG instead of needing a TD at the end.

4. Allen also dropped a TD in the endzone.

5. Ekeler dropped a go-ahead, game winning TD on a walk-in hook and ladder to end the game.

6. The Chargers O-line, one of the worst in the league last season, is missing 3 starters and even a back up got hurt already.

6.5. The Chargers surrendered 22 pressures and two sacks to a team that was one of the worst at generating pressure the last two weeks.

7. The Chargers are featuring a FIRST YEAR O.C. It's not like Reid or Peyton are out there drawing plays up for the kid.

8. No OTA's and a very limited TC.


DESPITE ALL OF THAT....

He still drove his team from the 1 yard line with less than 2-minutes to go and NO timeouts down the field and gave his team a chance to win at the end, and they yet again they failed to deliver.

That game, if you watched it, the Chargers did everything they possibly could to lose it, yet ya'll are here acting like Tyrod Taylor woulda won that game for them.

71% completion % on 49 attempts is not "erratic".

At what point do you look at the context here and go, "man, despite all that he has working against him, he's still doing some really nice things on the field"?

I think DJ and Htis are smart men, but man am i getting some stubborn vibes here.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Toxing loves to come around every now and then to slurp the Chargers dry. Thought it might end post Rivers, but alas. Same garbage football team that can't win close games.

You're a ****ing idiot, no i don't. At all. I do happen to watch them every week cuz, well no shit i live in San Diego and it's often the only game on.

So yeah, i sit there and actually watch the games, and conversate about them with my family, which is why i come here and see some of these takes and wonder if you even saw the game or just watched highlights.

Because i don't know how you could watch that game and not come to the conclusion that the Chargers literally did everything they could to lose.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

If you're a Chargers fan I think there were things to like, but you're definitely underselling that INT.

His running game supported him by averaging nearly 5 YPC and he attempted 50 passes with only 1 TD. He's got one of the best sets of offensive skill position weapons in the league and yet he got outdeuled by Teddy Bridgewaer and a bunch of bums.

Exactly.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

You're a ****ing idiot, no i don't. At all. I do happen to watch them every week cuz, well no shit i live in San Diego and it's often the only game on.

So yeah, i sit there and actually watch the games, and conversate about them with my family, which is why i come here and see some of these takes and wonder if you even saw the game or just watched highlights.

Because i don't know how you could watch that game and not come to the conclusion that the Chargers literally did everything they could to lose.

They've simplified their offense completely down so that he doesn't have to make more than a couple of reads.

They're playing a completely vanilla plan in order to accommodate the rookie.

I'm watching the games. His ball placement is all over the place. His decision making is questionable.

He threw the ball 50 times and managed 16 points, including an INT with a huge return that essentially resulted in a 6-point swing in a game that was lost by 5. Against what is likely a bottom 5 team.

Sorry, but I'm just not that easily impressed.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

If you're a Chargers fan I think there were things to like, but you're definitely underselling that INT.

His running game supported him by averaging nearly 5 YPC and he attempted 50 passes with only 1 TD. He's got one of the best sets of offensive skill position weapons in the league and yet he got outdeuled by Teddy Bridgewaer and a bunch of bums.

Here, let me explain to you how a QB can complete 71% of his passes and have a running game average 5 YPC and still lose:

Originally Posted by Detoxing

1. The Chargers turned the ball over 4 times. 1 of which was specifically the QB's fault.

2. The Chargers amassed a number a costly, poorly timed penalties.

3. The Chargers had a number of dropped passes, including a failed 2 point conversion off a Keenan Allen Drop that would've allowed the game to go into OT with a FG instead of needing a TD at the end.

4. Allen also dropped a TD in the endzone.

5. Ekeler dropped a go-ahead, game winning TD on a walk-in hook and ladder to end the game.

6. The Chargers O-line, one of the worst in the league last season, is missing 3 starters and even a back up got hurt already.

6.5. The Chargers surrendered 22 pressures and two sacks to a team that was one of the worst at generating pressure the last two weeks.

7. The Chargers are featuring a FIRST YEAR O.C. It's not like Reid or Peyton are out there drawing plays up for the kid.

Again, the Chargers TEAM lost this. They ****ed up every way they could. Despite that, the QB did some real nice things out there and had some real nice throws.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

They've simplified their offense completely down so that he doesn't have to make more than a couple of reads.

They're playing a completely vanilla plan in order to accommodate the rookie.

It looks exactly like the offense they rolled out week 1 with Taylor, except the rookie is taking more shots downfield.

Straight up.

WE all knew this offense was going to be hot garbage coming into this season. An offense with a shit Oline, a 1st year OC and a HC that wants to run the ball and play defense that's led by Tyrod Taylor.

They're running the same P/A, boot-leg roll out shit that they were running two weeks ago.

Now all of a sudden we want to lay that garbage offense at the feet of a rookie QB?

C'mon man....

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Here, let me explain to you how a QB can complete 71% of his passes and have a running game average 5 YPC and still lose:



Again, the Chargers TEAM lost this. They ****ed up every way they could. Despite that, the QB did some real nice things out there and had some real nice throws.

I watched the game. I also have Ekeler and Allen on my fantasy team so I extra salty with the drops/fumbles.

I wouldn't disagree with that. It is a team sport after all. Hell, I even agreed with the bolded. I'm just saying Herbert contributed greatly to the team's loss, especially with that INT before half.

[UChieffyBugger]

I heard on a recent podcast that Lynn had to be political about Tyrod keeping his spot because of the nature of his injury with the team doctor injurying his lung. Taylor could make things uncomfortable for the organisation if he chose to so that may be the reason he said what he said after we beat them.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

I heard on a recent podcast that Lynn had to be political about Tyrod keeping his spot because of the nature of his injury with the team doctor injurying his lung. Taylor could make things uncomfortable for the organisation if he chose to so that may be the reason he said what he said after we beat them.

That's an interesting thought.

You would think Taylor was told of the risks (they're fairly well known) and there might even be some sort of implied consent. But if it is somehow a case of doctor's error and Taylor lost his job because of it, there's a grievance there.