Rumor: Chiefs are signing Hollywood Brown

[staylor26]

🚀 🚀 https://t.co/XB82LVo0Hg

— Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) March 13, 2024

This dude has been batting 1.000. Very likely legit.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Shit - I was hoping someone would. That's why I brought it over here.

But I guess nobody wants to actually talk about Hollywood Brown but instead bitch about Twitter?

Maybe if he actually signs we'll get some dialogue there but oh well. Thought it merited some level of discourse as it seemed relevant to me anyway. I suspect there are makeable rebuttals that I wouldn't mind getting a chance to ponder.

I'm not in love with Hollywood Brown here - but I think there are some strengths he brings to the party and if anyone would like to attack those, be my guest so we can actually refine this whole thing a bit...

Out of what's left....he's the one I think has a place in this offense. Samuel is right after him but I've never really been a huge fan of his.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Aside from the very rare 5-10 yard hitch or out, MVS did absolutely nothing but receive deep targets. He had to be really good at hauling those in or he was totally useless; see 2023 reg. season.

That isn't HB. He can run routes too.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

The MVS role sucks. It only exists because MVS sucks. They didn’t sign him with intention of creating a role so limited that it could be replaced by any and all comers who can run. They were expecting a jump from him. We don’t need to refill that role. We just need a better player that does more to help the offense.

They signed Valdes-Scantling to have deep speed on the field that forced teams to keep the safeties high so Kelce and Smith-Schuster could feast underneath and break off huge YAC.

It worked like a charm in 2022. It didn’t last year because Valdes-Scantling took a step back and teams stopped keeping both safeties high.

That’s why I’ve been pro-Brown.

Yeah, on 90-100 targets he’s probably more like a 750 yard receiver.

But that’s valuable if you put teams back into two high safety as the only logical standard approach to KC/Mahomes because it’s going to make Kelce and Rice even more effective.

And we all keep asking for the ability to put less on Kelce as he ages. You can find 100 targets for Brown pretty easily, and he’s going to do more with them than Valdes-Scantling, Moore, and Toney did, which makes it easier to sit Kelce more.

Raw numbers like targets, receptions, yards, and TDS just don’t tell the full story here, as DJ already exhibited beautifully. And continuing to stubbornly post them is t going to convince anyone you’re right.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

No, not just the "run fast" MVS role.

Do that, get open, throw him the ball. Big plays and all will follow.

Right.

The problem with the "MVS role" is that in 2023 he sucked at it so it simply became nothing.

The risk is that if you were to fill that role with, say, Hardman - you have a real risk of it falling into nothingness again and we have the same shitshow we dealt with over the middle 2/3 of the season last year.

You're paying Brown (if you're paying Brown) for risk mitigation and little else. Yes, it's possible that Hardman COULD ascend into that role and do it well for less money. Or that a 2nd or 3rd round pick could.

Or that Wanya Morris could become a viable starting LT.

But that doesn't mean you don't go ahead and put a few bucks on the table here and there if/when you have a chance to mitigate the risk that those guys DON'T manage that trick.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

They signed Valdes-Scantling to have deep speed on the field that forced teams to keep the safeties high so Kelce and Smith-Schuster could feast underneath and break off huge YAC.

It worked like a charm in 2022. It didn’t last year because Valdes-Scantling took a step back and teams stopped keeping both safeties high.

That’s why I’ve been pro-Brown.

Yeah, on 90-100 targets he’s probably more like a 750 yard receiver.

But that’s valuable if you put teams back into two high safety as the only logical standard approach to KC/Mahomes because it’s going to make Kelce and Rice even more effective.

And we all keep asking for the ability to put less on Kelce as he ages. You can find 100 targets for Brown pretty easily, and he’s going to do more with them than Valdes-Scantling, Moore, and Toney did, which makes it easier to sit Kelce more.

Raw numbers like targets, receptions, yards, and TDS just don’t tell the full story here, as DJ already exhibited beautifully. And continuing to stubbornly post them is t going to convince anyone you’re right.

It also didn't work last year, because until Rice got involved...there was nobody else stepping up.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

The MVS role is EXACTLY why people are advocating for Hollywood - someone to stretch the field and threaten the DB's.

I think they want what MVS was supposed to be and actual deep threat which he isn’t , when you fail do you just give up?

[kozzman555]

Timeout. Someone tell me if Hollywood Brown catches the ball when it hits him in the hands or not. If he does, he's an upgrade over 3 of our receivers from last year, period.

[staylor26]

Not Rickey but I choose to believe https://t.co/byZHuI1XR4

— Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) March 12, 2024

"Not Rickey but"

A joke because everybody on NFL Twitter knows this guy has been nailing shit.

Literally all I'm trying to say. Again, he could absolutely be wrong here, but you can't tell me he's been wrong yet.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

It's better than nothing, but Samuel doesn't really move me. Would we squeeze some production out of him? Yeah, I think. But does it clarify needs in the draft at all? I don't really think so.

He's a #3. HB is a #2 in the right offense, I believe.

[Sassy Squatch]

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I think he RT'd him because of this:

Credit to young Rickey Steinberg over here: @PrettyRickey213 worth a follow folks!

— Wesley Steinberg (@WesSteinberg) March 11, 2024

I think that Wesley Steinberg guy is a parody account so I’m not sure that helps your argument. Would not shock me if there’s a community of these losers who conspire to work together to deceive people.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Shit - I was hoping someone would. That's why I brought it over here.

But I guess nobody wants to actually talk about Hollywood Brown but instead bitch about Twitter?

Maybe if he actually signs we'll get some dialogue there but oh well. Thought it merited some level of discourse as it seemed relevant to me anyway. I suspect there are makeable rebuttals that I wouldn't mind getting a chance to ponder.

I'm not in love with Hollywood Brown here - but I think there are some strengths he brings to the party and if anyone would like to attack those, be my guest so we can actually refine this whole thing a bit...

I enjoyed it. Just made me like him even more. Kind of supports what I said a few days ago as well when I mentioned I wanted him.

He gets open, the QBs see it, he earns a target, but they just aren’t good enough to get him the ball. Hence the reason he gets a lot of targets but a bit less production than you’d like to this point. Mahomes will fix that.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

And again, they don't have to pay $15M to get the production they want out of the 3rd option in the passing offense.

I'd say if they're gonna pay this, that woudl be a strong indication that they do in fact want more out of the 3rd option.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by Jerm

I don't know...you still need another WR, I could def. see them taking one at 32 or wherever they pick.

If we get Brown, I want McConkey in the draft or an OT if one falls.

[O.city]

I think we're also nearing the "Kelce and whoever they bring in are options 2/2b" landscape.

I wouldn't go in to much relying on Kelce as much as they have.