Let's talk about the offseason (2025 edition)

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Something I've been bouncing around in my head last 24 or so hrs,

in this cap era, seems like every team has a weakness, every year. Ya can't put together a perfect team. You obviously wanna prevent them as much as possible especially at critical mass positions (see LT last year)... but there's always going to be something that threatens your team from reaching the goal.

But, is there ever a good reason not to take the BPA on your board in the draft? Assuming it's clear cut who the top guy is.

For example, let's say KC enters the draft with only Tranquill and Leo at LB. In theory the position is relatively weak short and long term. You feel like you should take one early. But it lines up where your BPA by far are guys at RB, DT, CB in some order early on. You never really have a LB on the board you love or think is a long term answer.

Is it not better to just say, well, damn LB might be a weak link we gotta work around for a year, but we're going to turn (insert position) into a mega strength?

You need a bunch of good to great players to win Super Bowls and be a dynasty (see draft classes 2021-22). Does it matter what positions they play, or is it just a race to have 20+ good to great players every year and you figure out how to leverage those strengths best from year to year?

Building on this, like what if Luther Burden is BPA at 31

You're gonna give a little somewhere on the roster but if defenses have to deal with Rice, Worthy, Burden for the foreseeable future...

[O.city]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Building on this, like what if Luther Burden is BPA at 31

You're gonna give a little somewhere on the roster but if defenses have to deal with Rice, Worthy, Burden for the foreseeable future...

If Luther burden is at 31 you draft him no questions asked

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Building on this, like what if Luther Burden is BPA at 31

You're gonna give a little somewhere on the roster but if defenses have to deal with Rice, Worthy, Burden for the foreseeable future...

This is why you wanna try to have a floor option that you can stomach in place anywhere you have a hole going into the draft.

Then just stack good football players.

[ForeverIowan]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Building on this, like what if Luther Burden is BPA at 31

You're gonna give a little somewhere on the roster but if defenses have to deal with Rice, Worthy, Burden for the foreseeable future...

If it means the light show returns to KC and Mahomes starts smiling out there and having fun and winning MVPs I am all for it. Weve won with elite offenses and elite defenses. Winning is great, all else being equal, give me an elite offense and a happy franchise quarterback. I can deal with a 20ish ranked defense.

[O.city]

The issue with drafting for “needs” is you don’t really know what needs are yet and you miss out on things.

If we’d have taken BPA we’d probably have Porter Jr and mcduffie at cb

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

The issue with drafting for “needs” is you don’t really know what needs are yet and you miss out on things.

If we’d have taken BPA we’d probably have Porter Jr and mcduffie at cb

Remember in 2021 when the Chiefs defense was composed of little talent and older declining players?

Mike Hughes, Daniel Sorenson, Ben Neumann, Anthony Hitchens, Alex Okafor and then older declining vets in Frank Clark and Tyrann Matheiu.

Feels like that’s where we are on offense now. Granted they’ve gotten a good start with Rice/Worthy but man they need to inject real talent and youth into some of these positions on offense.

To your point, DL looks incredible this year. I would think getting one of those beasts would be a priority as BPA in rd 1.

[Sassy Squatch]

Paying Trey Smith would be incredibly annoying. On any given Sunday this season he'd be the second worst OL on the field for the Chiefs and there were a couple games he was worse than the rotating door of sadness at LT.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Paying Trey Smith would be incredibly annoying. On any given Sunday this season he'd be the second worst OL on the field for the Chiefs and there were a couple games he was worse than the rotating door of sadness at LT.

He's not a great fit for what the Chiefs do on offense, also he and Taylor's skill sets don't fit together at all. Like I feel like Thuney and Taylor would combo really well together.

Like I think Trey Smith would look like a dominant monster if he played for Detroit but he's in an offense that is nothing like that.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by Mecca

He's not a great fit for what the Chiefs do on offense, also he and Taylor's skill sets don't fit together at all. Like I feel like Thuney and Taylor would combo really well together.

Like I think Trey Smith would look like a dominant monster if he played for Detroit but he's in an offense that is nothing like that.

That's what I'm hoping becomes of a Kingsley + Taylor combo on the right side.

One would think Kingsley will be a better pass blocker than run blocker as a guard. That might help us to better handle Taylor's spacing.

[kcbubb]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

That's what I'm hoping becomes of a Kingsley + Taylor combo on the right side.

One would think Kingsley will be a better pass blocker than run blocker as a guard. That might help us to better handle Taylor's spacing.

I agree. I like Kingsley at RG. I actually wish we could get rid of Taylor somehow and put Morris in there. Morris is better at RT than LT and he’s way cheaper than Taylor. Kingsley and Morris played pretty well against Denver and they have a solid dline. Any chance we could trade Taylor for a 7th round pick swap just to get his salary off the books?

I would like to see our oline with this line up next year.

LT: vet LT plus Simmons drafted around 20
LG: Thuney
C: Creed
RG: Kingsley
RT: Morris

Bad idea?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

I agree. I like Kingsley at RG. I actually wish we could get rid of Taylor somehow and put Morris in there. Morris is better at RT than LT and he’s way cheaper than Taylor. Kingsley and Morris played pretty well against Denver and they have a solid dline. Any chance we could trade Taylor for a 7th round pick swap just to get his salary off the books?

I would like to see our oline with this line up next year.

LT: vet LT plus Simmons drafted around 20
LG: Thuney
C: Creed
RG: Kingsley
RT: Morris

Bad idea?

The Chiefs can not move on from Taylor he's here another year so yea bad plan.

[Woogieman]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

I agree. I like Kingsley at RG. I actually wish we could get rid of Taylor somehow and put Morris in there. Morris is better at RT than LT and he’s way cheaper than Taylor. Kingsley and Morris played pretty well against Denver and they have a solid dline. Any chance we could trade Taylor for a 7th round pick swap just to get his salary off the books?

I would like to see our oline with this line up next year.

LT: vet LT plus Simmons drafted around 20
LG: Thuney
C: Creed
RG: Kingsley
RT: Morris

Bad idea?

I like the idea of replacing Taylor, but putting two unproven guys on one side is way too risky for my taste. I tink we are stuck for one more year at RT.

[kccrow]

4/60 would be way too rich IMO but I've come to accept these things over the years.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by kccrow

4/60 would be way too rich IMO but I've come to accept these things over the years.

For Bolton? That's not a bad contract at all if they structure it right.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

For Bolton? That's not a bad contract at all if they structure it right.

Yeah. I'd probably tap out at 12 AAV and I don't really love seeing over 10 AAV but that's me.