***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

My local Hy-Vee has arrows throughout the store now directing traffic so that each aisle is one way only. I like it as it seemed to help prevent bunching in the aisles and being forced to walk between or around other people so much.

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

I was in a Hy-Vee like that yesterday. I hated it.

I went to Wal-Mart today. They were only allowing people in and out on the grocery side. They were counting people and were only allowing so many in the store at a time.
There were not arrows or any of that directional shopping. I would hate that bullshit also.
On the good side, there was pallets of all the different types and sizes of water. The store was 90% back to normal. The soup aisle was pretty thin and the biscuit area was pretty thin. Shelves were full of TP, paper towels and baby wipes. No Lysol disinfectant but most of the other cleaners were there.

[LiveSteam]

That was better than the Queens message today.
Which was dam good to.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by carlos3652

Thats what I googled. Thanks for providing the quote

I’m not going to get shit. So the details don’t matter to me.

But, I’d bet money that 90% of Americans thought when this was signed that it was free money with no strings attached. Because that’s how it was sold.

Not some complicated sliding scale involving different tax years. Depending on which side of the complex formulas your financials land on whether you get to keep your money or not.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I’m not going to get shit. So the details don’t matter to me.

But, I’d bet money that 90% of Americans thought when this was signed that it was free money with no strings attached. Because that’s how it was sold. Not some complicated sliding scale involving different tax years. Depending on which side of the complex formulas your financials land on whether you get to keep your money or not.

Nothing in that is complicated. They give you a tax credit next year. They advance it now...

[Al Bundy]

JUST IN: A tiger at the Bronx Zoo has tested positive for COVID-19, in what is believed to be the first known infection in an animal in the U.S. or a tiger anywhere. DETAILS: https://t.co/lXCiELm63e

— FOX 13 Tampa Bay (@FOX13News) April 5, 2020

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Al Bundy

JUST IN: A tiger at the Bronx Zoo has tested positive for COVID-19, in what is believed to be the first known infection in an animal in the U.S. or a tiger anywhere. DETAILS: https://t.co/lXCiELm63e

— FOX 13 Tampa Bay (@FOX13News) April 5, 2020

Carole ****ing Baskin.

[PAChiefsGuy]

New York has first daily drop in coronavirus deaths, Cuomo announces, as military heads to NYC

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new...ath-drop-cuomo

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by LiveSteam

That was better than the Queens message today.
Which was dam good to.

you'll like this!

six by eight feet!

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by stevieray

Cmon, ya'll..please don't fight over this. I was only responding to BCD and the anstyness(lol) some are feeling out there, because I can relate.

I appreciate all the sentiments, and I'm a pretty positive guy....you have to be to be in my line of work...so I appreciate the encouragement. If I wasn't tad bit nervous, something would be off.

But don't take that wrong . I'm extremely grateful that I've even made it this far. I chased the American dream, and I kicked its ass. I took a God given talent, brought joy to others with that talent,.supported a family and allowed my wife to be a stay at home mom. I've had INCREDIBLE opportunities and experiences, meeting some absolutely downright amazing people. I have no regrets. This was the path I chose and I've been greatly rewarded.

That said, it kicked my ass too. Sleepness nights in the beginning, wondering where the next job would come from, with the weight of Jupiter of fear of letting my young family down. barely getting through..taking deposits and paying bills before a brush hit the wall. And of course thunderous barrages of work that ultimately, now that I look back..the ups and downs were thrilling to go through. It taught me patience, perseverance, persistence and humility.


It made me a better man.

That said, if it is over, I welcome the next chapter of my life, whatever it may be. I never even saw this career coming.

Every job needs to be done, and done well. From janitor to CEO.

I'm confident there are very smart people trying to get a hold of this

The best we can do for now is edify each other , and not tear each other down.

Thanks again.

being able to use a natural talent that you enjoy to provide for your family, that’s gotta rock.

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Carole ****ing Baskin.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

I went to Wal-Mart today. They were only allowing people in and out on the grocery side. They were counting people and were only allowing so many in the store at a time.
There were not arrows or any of that directional shopping. I would hate that bullshit also.
On the good side, there was pallets of all the different types and sizes of water. The store was 90% back to normal. The soup aisle was pretty thin and the biscuit area was pretty thin. Shelves were full of TP, paper towels and baby wipes. No Lysol disinfectant but most of the other cleaners were there.

Costco and WalMart are both limiting so many people at a time around here... it's been encouraging to see there haven't been huge lines in the past couple weekends. The hoarders have hoarded, everyone else has gotten what they need, shelves are being restocked... and perhaps the hoarders have calmed their tits.

[Deberg_1990]

CORONAVIRUS
D.C. RESIDENTS PACKED IN LIKE SARDINES
... Shopping For Crab

https://www.tmz.com/2020/04/05/washi...al-distancing/

A super-popular weekend spot in the nation's capital was super dangerous Saturday, when crowds of people swarmed into a relatively tight space, squarely violating social distancing rules.

Check out the pic of the Wharf, where lots of locals descend to buy fresh seafood ... especially crab legs and shrimp.

D.C. has a stay-at-home order, but people are allowed to go out and shop. Problem here ... they're WAY too close together. Notice the sign, warning people to stay 6 feet apart.

Some are wearing masks ... but most aren't.

It's actually pretty incredible because at this point you have to be living under a rock not to understand the need to keep your distance.

The Deputy Mayor shut the market down Saturday night.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And what's with all this "people are going to get sick of being locked up" nonsense?

We've been on Lockdown in LA for more than three weeks and I haven't heard or seen anyone say "I'm sick of this!".

If anything, people have been completely understanding about this situation and want to do anything possible to make sure we're safe, even if that means 60 or 90 more days of lockdown.

I'm not "sick of it" yet, but I'll get there, likely before 60 more days and definitely well before 90 days. And I thankfully don't have a bunch of kids at home driving me nuts either...those are the people who are going to crack.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I'm not "sick of it" yet, but I'll get there, likely before 60 more days and definitely well before 90 days. And I thankfully don't have a bunch of kids at home driving me nuts either...those are the people who are going to crack.

Kids can go from lots of fun to driving you nuts in minutes lol. But I’m sure you know that

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Do you commission smaller works? Could you do custom work where someone sends in a photo that they want turned into a piece to be hung on a wall? Is there any way you could set up an online storefront in the interim?

It's interesting you say that, because I've been pondering going that route.