Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 113

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

Rasputin · 11-06-2018, 07:07 AM

I'm going give Berry the benefit of doubt and we have two months of football to play before the playoffs.

{Getting Houston back (healthy i hope) is going be a thing}

Berry has overcame some major setbacks health wise in his career. I don't see he can't overcome this and he is on the sidelines with the team supporting them it's not like he is in the booth eating nachos.

I'm not going be a hater he single handily beat teams like he did against the Dirty Birds. Maybe he wont be 100% but 50% of Berry sure got to be better than what we have on the field.

I'm also not a Eric Murray hater but he isn't Eric Berry.

TwistedChief · 11-06-2018, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod

Something just occurred to me - I wonder if Berry is getting pressured/paid off not to play. A healthy Berry in the secondary could make all the difference against the LA teams and in the playoffs.

All he has to do is keep saying that it hurts too bad to play. How could the staff prove otherwise?

Sure hope this isn't the case, but I've grown cynical enough over the years to believe it.

If this isn't the post that should make us all step back from the cliff and exhale....

I'm all for speculation, but let's keep it outside the realm of 'colossally stupid' speculation.

baitism · 11-06-2018, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar

GUIS NE1 HERE IF BERRY IS MAKIN PROGRESS?

He died of Haglund's late last night. RIP

**loochy** · 11-06-2018, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar

GUIS NE1 HERE IF BERRY IS MAKIN PROGRESS?

I THNK HE BE BAK FOR PLAYOFS AFTR BYE TO SAVE HIM HE CAN BE ALLPRO
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htismaqe · 11-06-2018, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Unless we want to believe that a ****ing bone spur is more debilitating than chemotherapy.

Not debilitating. Painful.

I don't think there's any big mystery here. It hurts and he doesn't want to play. I know when my heel flares up, I don't even want to stand up, let alone do anything else.

Rasputin · 11-06-2018, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Not debilitating. Painful.

I don't think there's any big mystery here. It hurts and he doesn't want to play. I know when my heel flares up, I don't even want to stand up, let alone do anything else.

Didn't Tony Gonzalez have a foot problem and he had to take injections for pain to play?

GloryDayz · 11-06-2018, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

I'm going give Berry the benefit of doubt and we have two months of football to play before the playoffs.

{Getting Houston back (healthy i hope) is going be a thing}

Berry has overcame some major setbacks health wise in his career. I don't see he can't overcome this and he is on the sidelines with the team supporting them it's not like he is in the booth eating nachos.

I'm not going be a hater he single handily beat teams like he did against the Dirty Birds. Maybe he wont be 100% but 50% of Berry sure got to be better than what we have on the field.

I'm also not a Eric Murray hater but he isn't Eric Berry.

I'm not giving him shit. At least not anymore... He's pure football ass at this point. In a "what have you done for me lately" league, he's been on vacation for two years.

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RunKC · 11-06-2018, 08:43 AM

FWIW per the article in Clay’s thread, Chiefs expect him back this month.

htismaqe · 11-06-2018, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

FWIW per the article in Clay’s thread, Chiefs expect him back this month.

They've said that since September. "Day to day".

Frazod · 11-06-2018, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by -Queen-

. You literally just posted that the league might be paying Berry not to play.
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As always, I wear your disapproval as a badge of honor.

OKchiefs · 11-06-2018, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

. You literally just posted that the league might be paying Berry not to play.
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What a surprise, coming to the defense of a fellow Alex Smith butt buddy.

GloryDayz · 11-06-2018, 09:16 AM

Berry puts the "Hag" into Haglund!

And it might help if the bum didn't dress the part of a bum. I'm sure he's plenty comfy not bathing or grooming, but for a multimillionaire who's not doing his job, it's add another angle to be disappointed about.

And I get it, looks don't matter, it just seems that shitty looks just make the "slacking off" appear worse.

**RealSNR** · 11-06-2018, 09:19 AM

Beginning to think it's more that Berry had a relapse in his therapy and is now more afraid of our mascot horse than ever before!

**Lzen** · 11-06-2018, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod

1970, red with black stripes and black interior, automatic trans (don't want to deal with a friggin stick anymore). LS-6 or LS-5 would be preferable, but not a deal breaker.

And cowl induction. It may be gimmicky, but it's definitely bad ass.

Here you go:

I'm in love.

-King- · 11-06-2018, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

What a surprise, coming to the defense of a fellow Alex Smith butt buddy.

Oh so you agree that the league might be paying Berry to not play...

This is great.
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09-29-2018, 01:06 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $1746899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level. Last edited by DaFace; 09-29-2018 at 04:32 PM..
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Rasputin Tip of the hat LIV Champs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ks Casino cash: $3245421	I'm going give Berry the benefit of doubt and we have two months of football to play before the playoffs. {Getting Houston back (healthy i hope) is going be a thing} Berry has overcame some major setbacks health wise in his career. I don't see he can't overcome this and he is on the sidelines with the team supporting them it's not like he is in the booth eating nachos. I'm not going be a hater he single handily beat teams like he did against the Dirty Birds. Maybe he wont be 100% but 50% of Berry sure got to be better than what we have on the field. I'm also not a Eric Murray hater but he isn't Eric Berry.
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