***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[RunKC]

PGA championship rescheduled to August 6th. I think that could actually happen. Golf works pretty well with social distancing.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by RunKC

PGA championship rescheduled to August 6th. I think that could actually happen. Golf works pretty well with social distancing.

For once a sport being boring pays off.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

I'm not saying that, but we are not maxing out our hospitals capacity or ventilators as country. That was my point meaning we have the resources to fight this.

We can move those resources as time goes on as well.

I hope we don’t. The other cities and areas have a heads up, hopefully it works out

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by penguinz

Impossible. I was just told earlier in this thread our hospitals are fine.

The Health and Human Services IG report on PPE availability is out.

Equipment provided to hospitals from the federal government fell far short of what was needed and was sometimes not usable or of low quality, said the report, which was based on interviews with administrators from 324 hospitals and hospital networks of varying sizes.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...dance-n1177256


WASHINGTON — Hospitals across the country face dire shortages of vital medical equipment amid the coronavirus outbreak — including testing kits and thermometers — and fear they can't ensure the safety of health care workers needed to treat patients with COVID-19, according to an internal government watchdog report released Monday.


The alarming findings, based on interviews conducted from March 23 to March 27, represent the first government assessment of how the country's hospitals are coping with the outbreak and confirm previous media reports and warnings from health workers that the medical system is under unprecedented strain.


Hospital administrators also said conflicting guidance from federal, state and local governments on how to use personal protective gear and other issues has led to "a greater sense of confusion, fear and distrust among staff that they can rely on hospital procedures to protect them," according to the report from the inspector general for the Department of Health and Human Services, or HHS.

[O.city]

The masters moved to November

Gonna have to compete with the nfl

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by RunKC

PGA championship rescheduled to August 6th. I think that could actually happen. Golf works pretty well with social distancing.

Masters will be played in November.

[Mecca]

I want to see the masters played in the snow, good luck finding your ball, that'll take a ****ing master.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

I’m expecting the news stations to stop calling Fauci a Coronavirus expert. It’s misleading. I know what his field is. Why add Coronavirus expert to the title on all of these headlines? There is no such thing as a Coronavirus expert. Plain and simple, yet the US thinks they have one somehow.

There is such a thing. Coronavirus is a type of a virus (Coronaviridae family). There are a myriad of Coronaviruses. This particular one is SARS-CoV-2.

[BleedingRed]

now they are only projecting needing 6k Ventilators in NY, when they were projecting needing 30k.

Still "Projected" bed shortage, but that keeps being lowered every day to.

[FloridaMan88]

Sounds like China had a good weekend...

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/...-20/index.html

Chinese tourist sites packed as country comes out of lockdown, but experts say risk still high

Large numbers of people flocked to popular tourists sites and major cities across China over the country's holiday weekend, despite warnings from health authorities that the risk posed by the coronavirus pandemic remains far from over.

Images from the Huangshan mountain park in Anhui province on Saturday April 4 showed thousands of people crammed together, many wearing face masks, eager to experience the great outdoors after months of travel restrictions and strict lockdown measures.

Such was the rush to get into the popular tourist spot, that at 7.48 a.m., authorities took the unusual step of issuing a notice declaring that the park had reached its 20,000 person daily capacity, and would not be accepting any more visitors, according to state media Global Times.

Restaurants and parks packed: Meanwhile in Shanghai, the famous Bund waterfront was packed with shoppers and tourists, after weeks of being near deserted. Many of the city's restaurants that were shuttered only days ago also appeared to be doing a brisk trade, with several requiring reservations.

A similar story played out in the capital Beijing, with locals flocking to the city's parks and open spaces.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Sounds like China had a good weekend...

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/...-20/index.html

**** China, There needs to be a security meeting at the UN to decide on how the world is going to deal with those idiots moving forward.

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by RunKC

PGA championship rescheduled to August 6th. I think that could actually happen. Golf works pretty well with social distancing.

Masters in November which is gonna be super weird lol...

[2112]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Sounds like China had a good weekend...

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/...-20/index.html

Who knows? They may have come up with a cure and are not sharing it. They’ve also been lying from the start of this. To everybody

[Pants]

Originally Posted by 2112

Who knows? They may have come up with a cure and are not sharing it. They’ve also been lying from the start of this. To everybody

Have a cure..

China will have a cure when a Western lab comes up with it and then they copy it. That's how China has anything since the Great Leap Forward.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by 2112

Who knows? They may have come up with a cure and are not sharing it. They’ve also been lying from the start of this. To everybody

I feel like either option deserves a "oopsies" blockade of their shipping lanes by the entire world.