Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 116

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

**DaFace** · 11-06-2018, 12:42 PM

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Chiefs safety activated from injured reserve; Nate Orchard waived https://t.co/OUffEobQEI
— The Kansas City Star (@KCStar) November 6, 2018

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That's hilarious.

**bevischief** · 11-06-2018, 12:44 PM

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GloryDayz · 11-06-2018, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder

Chiefs safety activated from injured reserve; Nate Orchard waived https://t.co/OUffEobQEI
— The Kansas City Star (@KCStar) November 6, 2018

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"Acclimate" and "ease in" after ~2 months off, but Berry will come back and be ready to go..

**TribalElder** · 11-06-2018, 12:56 PM

oh wow, they switched the pictures, it was a picture of berry

**Rausch** · 11-06-2018, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

"Acclimate" and "ease in" after ~2 months off, but Berry will come back and be ready to go..

A gassed Berry is still better than what we're putting out there right now...

GloryDayz · 11-06-2018, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

A gassed Berry is still better than what we're putting out there right now...

You mean the Eric Berry you remember from just after the Royals won the WS?

MIAdragon · 11-06-2018, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

"Acclimate" and "ease in" after ~2 months off, but Berry will come back and be ready to go..

It’s comical really.

MIAdragon · 11-06-2018, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

A gassed Berry is still better than what we're putting out there right now...

Gassed and hobbled, who knows if he’s even into it anymore. Expecting anything really is akin to expecting your wife to fit in that size two dress because she used to fit in it.

-King- · 11-06-2018, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon

It’s comical really.

He barely had a training camp after coming back from cancer and still had an all pro year.

Give him an couple weeks of practice and a few games to knock rust off and he'll be fine.
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OKchiefs · 11-06-2018, 02:03 PM

So they say they expect Berry back this month. Does that mean in a game? Because the Rams game is technically the last game in November.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-06-2018, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

So they say they expect Berry back this month. Does that mean in a game? Because the Rams game is technically the last game in November.

I wondered if that was ideal anyway. Give berry limited "bullpen" reps... Let him use the bye week to heal, and see how he feels.?

FloridaMan88 · 11-06-2018, 02:39 PM

So Sorensen is returning from a broken leg sustained in August, before Eric Berry/his sore heel even begins to practice.

dlphg9 · 11-06-2018, 02:57 PM

I don't think there is anyway Berry can just come back and be ready to play. He's going to have all the talent he's always had, but there is no way he is going to be anywhere close to shape. Shawn Barber is on 610 every week and he thought Berry would just be able to come back and be the player he always was, the moment he steps on the field. I just find that really hard to believe.

GloryDayz · 11-06-2018, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

So Sorensen is returning from a broken leg sustained in August, before Eric Berry/his sore heel even begins to practice.

PAChiefsGuy · 11-06-2018, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Jealous? Are you an idiot? I'm just sick of watching the position where he should be playing continue to be a dumpster fire week after week after week.

Hey moron I wasn't talking about you. You're just a chronic complainer.

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Originally Posted by Frazod

This is one of the dumbest goddamn things I've ever seen posted here.

I'm not jealous of Berry - I just want him to DO HIS ****ING JOB. The job he gets paid millions of dollars to do. Or at the very least, know why he can't.

How much money he makes is immaterial when you consider the fact he has an injury that won't allow him to play. And he is doing his job he is rehabbing and trying to get back on the field with his teammates. You can't possibly be stupid enough to think he is healthy but just doesn't want to play for selfish reasons or maybe you are?

Face it. You are jealous of the money he is getting paid because he isn't playing right now. Look, that's how it works. NFL players put their bodies on the line unlike you or I who sit in an office. You are a professional athlete and get hurt you still get paid a portion of your salary or all of it depending on how the contract is setup.

If anything get mad at how NFL contracts are setup, not Berry.

09-29-2018, 01:06 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $1766899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. 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