Pats Cheating Comfirmed

[PizzaDoughz]

According to the report, the league sources say the NFL determined 11 of the 12 footballs used by the Patriots were under-inflated by two pounds per square inch each. Per NFL rules, footballs are required to be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/2...bill-belichick

Discuss.

[Beef Supreme]

Not sure if Q.

NFL now focusing on locker room attendant.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/d...tendant-012615

We all saw this coming.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by jd1020

That story blows even the presidents mind.

LOL rep

[Ming the Merciless]

I didnt read this before, sorry if Q....

but prior to 2006, there was no "12 balls per team"

it was 24 balls and both teams shared them.......

the NFL changed the rule in 2006 to divide the balls and let away teams bring 12 balls

[Ming the Merciless]

Was GoChargers or MagicHef spotted in the pats Hotel?

http://fansided.com/2015/01/27/new-e...ll-fire-alarm/

While the New England Patriots were off to bed looking to get some brief silence from all the talk about Deflate-Gate last night, they had something else in their ears bothering them. For some reason, the fire alarm went off in the middle of the night to give everyone a wake up call.

[manchambo]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

I didnt read this before, sorry if Q....

but prior to 2006, there was no "12 balls per team"

it was 24 balls and both teams shared them.......

the NFL changed the rule in 2006 to divide the balls and let away teams bring 12 balls

And then this happened: http://www.slate.com/articles/sports...er_a_2006.html

[The Franchise]

Hmm....I wonder why Tom Brady was a major backer of that rule being changed.....

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant

Hmm....I wonder why Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, backed by 20 other quarterbacks was a major backer of that rule being changed.....

FYP.

[Amnorix]

From Peter King today:

I got a great and well-reasoned email from Tom Bannister, a chemistry professor from The Scripps Research Institute in Jupiter, Fla., Monday. I will save the explanation of the difference between absolute pressure and relative pressure, and other complex topics. But I called Bannister after getting his smart email, and you’ll see why in a moment.

Key points from his email:

“By the ideal gas law, a football inflated to 12.5 at 72 degrees and cooled to 51 degrees [the temperature on the field during the first half] will have a final pressure of 11.43 psi, thus a loss of 1.16 psi … A second factor, the expansion of a football as it gets wet, also leads to a drop in psi. This factor contributes another 0.7 psi in pressure drop … Plain English ultimate conclusion: It would be reasonable to expect, based on both experimental results and ideal gas law calculations, for a pressure drop in excess of 1.5 psi to have occurred within the Patriots footballs in the first half, based on the known game-time conditions and the observation that the footballs were inflated to 12.5 relative psi at room temperature.

“[But] what about the Colts footballs? We don’t know their initial pressure, but if we assume that they were the maximum legal pressure of 13.5 psi relative pressure, we can calculate the expected pressure drop. Thus the Colts footballs should have been a final pressure of 12.3 psi. The legal lower limit is 12.5 psi. The Colts footballs should have been illegal by 0.2 psi. Question: Would a referee call a reading of 12.3 rather than 12.5 to be clearly out of specifications and illegal? Maybe yes, maybe no. It certainly depends on both the accuracy and precision of the pressure gauge.

“Final conclusion: It is not unreasonable at all to assume that the Patriots balls would fail the inspection and the Colts balls would (barely) pass, based upon logical assumptions of inflation levels, inflation temperatures in concert with the issues of temperature-related gas expansion, the expansion properties of a leather football as it becomes water-soaked, and the human-element.”

So I called Bannister Monday, and we discussed it. I said the assumption is the Colts footballs were at the higher pressure level, and that’s perhaps why they didn’t flunk the halftime pressure test; but there’s no proof of that. But if the Colts did deliver footballs to the officials at 13.5 PSI, then clearly there’s a chance the pressure level would have hovered around 12.5 PSI, and it’s possible the differing results have to do with where each football that was tested was set before the game.

In other words, there’s much we don’t know.

“There’s a lot of missing pieces in this story,” Bannister said.

http://mmqb.si.com/2015/01/27/nfl-de...tion-patriots/

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Asterix

FYP.

For the ability to change the balls how you want them....before they get tested.....sure.

Now go tell me how many of those teams have a unusually high rate of not fumbling and are currently being investigated for changing the pressure of the ball AFTER the refs ok'd them.

[The Franchise]

Yeah.....Peter King.....the Pioli ballwasher and lover of everything Patriots. Got it.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by manchambo

And then this happened: http://www.slate.com/articles/sports...er_a_2006.html

For all the people out there saying this is no big deal, please read this article and then tell me; A. It's no big deal, B. Why it's not, and C. Whether or not you're okay with cheating.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by manchambo

And then this happened: http://www.slate.com/articles/sports...er_a_2006.html

Wow. That's awful. What a scumbag franchise

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

For all the people out there saying this is no big deal, please read this article and then tell me; A. It's no big deal, B. Why it's not, and C. Whether or not you're okay with cheating.

I'm not asking anyone to pass any judgment, there's a lot left to be found our before I can do that. Just explain how it's not a big deal, or simply that you have no moral compass and we can call it good.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Wow. That's awful. What a scumbag franchise

The worst thing that could happen was investigative journalists latching on to this story. That's a big time game changer right there.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Asterix

FYP.

Props for being a good sport on the avatar and name change. It's temporary I can assure you.