Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 117

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

Pasta Little Brioni · 11-06-2018, 06:43 PM

Lotta idiots

**PHOG** · 11-06-2018, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

So Sorensen is returning from a broken leg sustained in August, before Eric Berry/his sore heel even begins to practice.

Pretty telling IMO

Red Dawg · 11-06-2018, 07:55 PM

Berry could play. No way his heel is so bad he just can't play. He's being selfish.

Frazod · 11-06-2018, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Hey moron I wasn't talking about you. You're just a chronic complainer.

How much money he makes is immaterial when you consider the fact he has an injury that won't allow him to play. And he is doing his job he is rehabbing and trying to get back on the field with his teammates. You can't possibly be stupid enough to think he is healthy but just doesn't want to play for selfish reasons or maybe you are?

Face it. You are jealous of the money he is getting paid because he isn't playing right now. Look, that's how it works. NFL players put their bodies on the line unlike you or I who sit in an office. You are a professional athlete and get hurt you still get paid a portion of your salary or all of it depending on how the contract is setup.

If anything get mad at how NFL contracts are setup, not Berry.

Yeah, you're just as ****ing stupid as advertised.

In58men · 11-06-2018, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg

Berry could play. No way his heel is so bad he just can't play. He's being selfish.

I missed work with gout for two and I had people tell me no way gout is that painful.

What you never had before, you’ll never understand. You’re the one actually being selfish, his health is more important than a football game smh.

FloridaMan88 · 11-06-2018, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men

I missed work with gout for two and I had people tell me no way gout is that painful.

What you never had before, you’ll never understand. You’re the one actually being selfish, his health is more important than a football game smh.

Were you making $78 million at your job like Berry is?

Also shut the hell up with the “Berry’s health is more important than football” bullshit.

The Chiefs aren’t asking him to play through a concussion or another injury that could have major long term ramifications... his heel issue is a pain management/tolerance issue.

In58men · 11-06-2018, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Were you making $78 million at your job like Berry is?

Also shut the hell up with the “Berry’s health is more important than football” bullshit.

The Chiefs aren’t asking him to play through a concussion or another injury that could have major long term ramifications... his heel issue is a pain management/tolerance issue.

If he’s says it’s too ****ing painful to play then it’s too ****ing painful. I guess Ryan Shazier should ****ing play too since he’s getting paid. He’s also being selfish and milking his injury.

He’ll come back when he’s ****ing ready not when you think he’s ready. We have Arizona this week, who cares? **** the Rams too, we can beat those ****ing guys without him.

**TimeForWasp** · 11-06-2018, 09:47 PM

Get off his nuts. He would play if he could.

In58men · 11-06-2018, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 65TPT

Get off his nuts. He would play if he could.

Exactly

****ing shit lol

FloridaMan88 · 11-06-2018, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 65TPT

Get off his nuts. He would play if he could.

Eric Berry is too injured to even practice for 3 months?

Bullshit.

Flying High D · 11-07-2018, 07:11 AM

If it is so painful, how is he working out? Asking for a friend.

GloryDayz · 11-07-2018, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Flying High D

If it is so painful, how is he working out? Asking for a friend.

He just does curls with memories of his past... When he wasn't raping the Chiefs.

Flying High D · 11-07-2018, 07:27 AM

Le’Veon Bell is jealous. Old homeless living under a bridge looking gimp showing him how not play and still get the pay.

Marcellus · 11-07-2018, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg

Berry could play. No way his heel is so bad he just can't play. He's being selfish.

Marcellus · 11-07-2018, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Eric Berry is too injured to even practice for 3 months?

Bullshit.

OK then, why isn't he practicing then? Whats the deal with Berry? Enlighten us.

09-29-2018, 01:06 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $1766899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. 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