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Old 09-15-2019, 02:33 PM  
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Frank Clark ****ing sucks
Guy has done NOTHING in two games. Barely any pressures to speak of against trash OTs.

Yeah, I'm in bitchy gameday mode. Don't care. I'm tired of paying out the ass for defensive players who don't make plays.

At least Justin Houston could dominate against bad teams after we paid him.
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Old 11-02-2019, 10:29 AM   #1756
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Just let it go. Clark is good. Really good. He's already done things we haven't seen a Chiefs DE do in years. He's loads better than Ford.
He's not even close to really good. He's solid and a worthy starter, yet nowhere near worth his salary.
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Old 11-02-2019, 10:34 AM   #1757
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He's not even close to really good. He's solid and a worthy starter, yet nowhere near worth his salary.
Gotta love how some of you pretend that 2016-2018 didn’t happen and he’s wasn’t one of the best edge rushers in the league over that span.

You want to say he hasn’t been they guy in KC 7 games in? That’s fine, but let’s not act like he hasn’t been consistently really good up until this year.
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Old 11-02-2019, 10:46 AM   #1758
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Just let it go. Clark is good. Really good. He's already done things we haven't seen a Chiefs DE do in years. He's loads better than Ford.

The trade is the trade. It was a bad trade, and we can't fix that now. That should have nothing to do with his evaluation as a player. I think people confuse evaluation of our roster construction with evaluation of our roster. They're different things.
Whew! This is a reeeaach.

A gimpy Houston past his prime was holding his own against the run and providing more consistent pressure than this version of Clark.
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Old 11-02-2019, 11:19 AM   #1759
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Gotta love how some of you pretend that 2016-2018 didn’t happen and he’s wasn’t one of the best edge rushers in the league over that span.

You want to say he hasn’t been they guy in KC 7 games in? That’s fine, but let’s not act like he hasn’t been consistently really good up until this year.
Yet the Seahawks still were looking to trade him as soon as they realized what he wanted for a contract. That tells me they didnt think he is as good as we did and they were obviously right.
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Old 11-02-2019, 12:53 PM   #1760
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Yet the Seahawks still were looking to trade him as soon as they realized what he wanted for a contract. That tells me they didnt think he is as good as we did and they were obviously right.
The Seahawks couldn’t afford him you stupid ****. The Raiders did the same thing with Mack and they had way more money. Does that mean the Raiders didn’t think he was really good?
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Old 11-02-2019, 01:16 PM   #1761
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The Seahawks couldn’t afford him you stupid ****. The Raiders did the same thing with Mack and they had way more money. Does that mean the Raiders didn’t think he was really good?
You want to be Dane so bad.
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He's not even close to really good. He's solid and a worthy starter, yet nowhere near worth his salary.
Tends to happen in the NFL with the way contracts are now.

Do you think that if Mahomes gets $250 million that he’ll be worth his contract if he doesn’t win a Super Bowl every year? He’d have to what....throw for 5000 yards and 50 TDs every year to be worth that much money.
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Old 11-02-2019, 01:30 PM   #1763
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“He’s not worth the money!”

No shit. Neither was Justin Houston. Neither was Von Miller. Neither was JJ Watt.

Aaron Donald is the only defensive player I can think of worth top money in the entire league.

-and no Khalil Mack has not been worth his contract-
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“He’s not worth the money!”

No shit. Neither was Justin Houston. Neither was Von Miller. Neither was JJ Watt.

Aaron Donald is the only defensive player I can think of worth top money in the entire league.

-and no Khalil Mack has not been worth his contract-
Sure but the players you listed are giving a better ROI than Clark so far.
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Old 11-02-2019, 07:05 PM   #1765
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Gotta love how some of you pretend that 2016-2018 didn’t happen and he’s wasn’t one of the best edge rushers in the league over that span.

You want to say he hasn’t been they guy in KC 7 games in? That’s fine, but let’s not act like he hasn’t been consistently really good up until this year.
One of the top 20? Sure. One of the best, as in one of the first 5 someone should rattle off? Absolutely not. He's been Dee Ford in this league to date, and that's not a joke.
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The Seahawks couldn’t afford him you stupid ****. The Raiders did the same thing with Mack and they had way more money. Does that mean the Raiders didn’t think he was really good?
Hey dumbass if the Seahawks really wanted him they would have figured out a way to manipulate the cap to keep him.

Thank God you arent the GM of the Chiefs. You'd be getting raped w trades on a weekly basis.
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One of the top 20? Sure. One of the best, as in one of the first 5 someone should rattle off? Absolutely not. He's been Dee Ford in this league to date, and that's not a joke.
Top 20?

He had 32 sacks over that span while also being a damn good run defender. If he wasn’t top 5 (he was) he was just outside of it.

Get a ****ing clue.
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I know man, truth hurts. He sets the edge a bit better against the run but is statistically on par with Ford. We traded top picks and handed a guy a bigger contract for what amounts to the same guy. I don't like Veach much as a GM so far and this move was by far his dumbest.
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Top 20?

He had 32 sacks over that span while also being a damn good run defender. If he wasn’t top 5 (he was) he was just outside of it.

Get a ****ing clue.
I think you need to do some research and let me know what guys he beats out in the top 5.
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