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12-15-2020, 09:46 AM | #166 | |
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Handled the Texans at home on TNF (of course, not nearly as impressive as people thought at the time, but they played like it). Handled the Ravens, MNF on the road. Handled the Bills, MNF on the road. Vegas, SNF on the road. @TB, @Miami, @NO That leaves what.... NE at home (no problems there), Raiders, NYJ, Carolina, Denver. I could argue they've had all of 1 or 2 'statement games' at home (and that's if you want to count the Texans), while they've had 5 on the road (not including the Saints). All that said, I definitely won't be traveling for the playoffs this year to experience their 30% capacity "HFA". |
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12-15-2020, 10:10 AM | #167 |
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Not to belabor the point, but it made me curious...
Record of opponents they've played at home... 26-52 (.333), one winning record (7-6 Raiders). Add the Chargers and Falcons and it's 34-70 (.327) Road opponents... 50-41 (.549), 5 winning records, minus the Chargers and Broncos. Add the Saints and it's 60-44 (.568). Dog shit schedule for anyone who's paid Covid prices to go to Arrowhead this season. |
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12-15-2020, 10:41 AM | #168 | |
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If the Chiefs, Bills, and Steelers go 13-3 then it’s different tiebreakers which can’t be determined yet. So the Bills getting a fourth loss eliminates that possibility resulting in our known tiebreaker advantage over the Steelers coming into play. |
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12-15-2020, 10:53 AM | #169 | |
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12-15-2020, 10:55 AM | #170 |
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Here is how I got it
#1 KC 14-2 #2 Buffalo 12-4 #3 Pittsburg 12-4 #4 Tennessee 12-4 #5 Cleveland 12-4 #6 Indianapolis 12-4 #7 Miami 11-5 NFC #1 Saints 13-3 #2 Green Bay 12-4 #3 LA Rams 12-4 #4 Washington 8-8 #5 Tampa Bay 11-5 #6 Seattle 11-5 #7 Arizona 9-7 I don't think we will lose to the Saints this week, but this could be a week that Andy tries to hard to win. |
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12-15-2020, 12:26 PM | #171 |
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It would still go by conference record first and then head-to-head.
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12-15-2020, 12:41 PM | #172 | |
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Next, KC would win the 3 way tie, IF the two losses were to the 2 NFC teams, because they'd have a better conference record than Buffalo or Pittsburgh. If it's one vs NFC and also lose to Chargers, then it would come down to strength of victory. This is where it's crazy close, and it would be fairly critical that Chiefs one remaining win is vs. Saints rather than Falcons. If it was, the wins by opponents currently would be as follows (more is better): KC 79, Buf 78, Pitt 78 (best case - this would be Pitt losing to Cincy, so I don't think they have a chance). Dead heat, and remaining games would make the difference. Of course, again, Chargers win is trump card. This is a lot of blah,blah, blah to say, I don't see how Chiefs do NOT get 1 seed, shy of losing to Chargers and Pittsburgh winning out. IF KC loses 2 games - assuming they don't take that last week off because they've clinched by then - they do not deserve the 1 seed, even if they still got it. |
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12-15-2020, 12:44 PM | #173 | |
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h2h sweep is first tiebreaker even in 3 or more way tie. Then conference games. Once one team is eliminated or finishes ahead, then it starts over at h2h again. Obviously, there is no h2h sweep among these 3 though. If KC's lone win in this scenario is vs. Chargers, Chiefs win the 3 way tiebreaker on conference record. Otherwise, it's the hairy Strength of Victory one... |
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12-15-2020, 12:47 PM | #174 |
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It's really pretty simple to me:
We get the one seed if: -We win out -We lose only one game to either the Saints or the Falcons Other scenarios get murky, but even most of those go our way. In short, as long as we don't majorly screw up (e.g., losing 2+ games), we should be good. |
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12-15-2020, 12:50 PM | #175 |
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If we lose two games but both are to the NFC teams, we're 64% likely to get a bye. If we lose two games, but one of them is to the Chargers, it becomes a coin flip. EDIT: Eh, these were messed up. See below. Last edited by DaFace; 12-15-2020 at 01:13 PM.. |
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12-15-2020, 12:58 PM | #176 | |
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So, the first tiebreaker when there are 3 or more conference teams tied is to apply the division tiebreaker first. Since all 3 will be their division winner, the first tiebreaker would result in a tie. The 2nd tiebreaker is head-to-head sweep. Buffalo is the only one to play both of the others but they lost to us, so on to tiebreaker 3. 3rd tiebreaker is the SAME as the first tiebreaker in a 2-team scenario - conference winning percentage. Buffalo has lost to both Tennessee and KC. Unless KC loses to the Chargers, they win this tiebreaker with BOTH Buffalo and the Steelers because the Steelers only have AFC games left so to finish 13-3, they would have to lose at least one AFC game. |
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12-15-2020, 01:00 PM | #177 | |
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Truly, in effect, losing the 2 NFC games is equivalent for KC to losing the 1 vs. the Chargers in terms of seeding. Either one requires one Pitt loss, and Buffalo doesn't matter. |
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12-15-2020, 01:01 PM | #178 | |
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In fact, the Steelers would also have two AFC losses if they finish 13-3 because they only have AFC opponents left. If the Chiefs beat the Chargers, there's almost no chance they don't get the #1 seed unless the Steelers win out. |
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12-15-2020, 01:05 PM | #179 | |
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12-15-2020, 01:07 PM | #180 | |
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So to try and summarize again, we get the bye if: -We win out. -We only lose one, and it's to either the Saints or Falcons. -The Steelers drop one more game. (Technically there are super weird tiebreaker scenarios that would make this untrue, but they are VERY unlikely.) Last edited by DaFace; 12-15-2020 at 01:14 PM.. |
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