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Old 03-04-2019, 04:52 PM  
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Old 03-04-2019, 06:37 PM   #166
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Why does it look that way? This exactly how the Chiefs maximize their leverage in negotiations and extract value. They express to the rest of the league that they have options. You want Houston? Well, he may not be cut because we may trade Ford instead. You want Ford? Well, we don't have to trade him as we can just cut Houston.

If the Chiefs approached this any other way, they'd be idiotic.
that makes sense
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Old 03-04-2019, 06:37 PM   #167
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Honestly...

Dee Ford is a dumb**** who cost us the AFC title this year.

Justin Houston is old and no longer the player that we are paying him to be.

Eric Berry is old and no longer plays at all.

Trade/Cut them all and let Spags start over. We were 31st last year so it's not like we can get much worse. This defense needs a complete cultural makeover from top to bottom. Tired of soft/injured players. Get some hard hitting mother****ers in here that want to win a championship.
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Old 03-04-2019, 06:37 PM   #168
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Everyone wants to address the secondary. We can't do that without nuking the front 7?
We can't be active in free agency if we spend all of our remaining cap on Dee Ford. Nope. That's always been the point.
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Old 03-04-2019, 06:38 PM   #169
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Don't forget the $16M that he takes with him, the free agents that weren't signed because of it, and another year of "there's always next year".
Destroy your pass rush, complain about lack of pressure and then say "there's always next year".

But hey, at least we got 7.5 Sack Trey Flowers for $16M
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Old 03-04-2019, 06:38 PM   #170
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Box safeties are found every year for a hell of a lot cheaper than what Landon Collins is going to cost

If you pay him that, he better be a hell of a lot. Ore than a guy that plays around the line of scrimmage

You could literally get 80% of that production for like 15% of the price elsewhere
They also have a hell of a lot less talent.
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Old 03-04-2019, 06:38 PM   #171
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Ford was a rotational player his first 2 years. When he got to play significant snaps he had 2 seasons with 10+ sacks and didn't play much of the other due to injury. Ansah also has a season on him.
Ansah's two best seasons - 12 and 14.5 sacks. Both better than Ford's two best seasons.

Ford's next best season? 4 sacks. Ansah's next best seasons? 7.5 and 8.

There's absolutely no question that Ansah is better. It's not even debatable.
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Old 03-04-2019, 06:38 PM   #172
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Giving Dee Ford a Justin Houston-esque contract at the end of a tag year is like purposefully shooting yourself in the dick.

There is literally nothing dumber in all of defensive football that could occur. In any era, in any universe, in any galaxy.
Ford is a one trick pony who has benefitted from playing on the same line as Justin Houston.

He's abysmal against the run, does NOTHING for the defense besides pressure the quarterback. His football IQ is nonexistent.

Yeah, no way in hell you're giving that dude a big contract.
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We can't be active in free agency if we spend all of our remaining cap on Dee Ford. Nope. That's always been the point.
That's why they're cutting/trading Houston. And if they sign a Collins or Thomas, i fully expect they'll part ways with Berry.
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Old 03-04-2019, 06:39 PM   #174
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Destroy your pass rush, complain about lack of pressure and then say "there's always next year".

But hey, at least we got 7.5 Sack Trey Flowers for $16M
You're just assuming the pass rush is destroyed. That's all it is, an assumption.

You're just doom and gloom.
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Old 03-04-2019, 06:40 PM   #175
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That's why they're cutting/trading Houston. And if they sign a Collins or Thomas, i fully expect they'll part ways with Berry.
Except they're not parting ways with Berry. They already said as much.
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Ansah's two best seasons - 12 and 14.5 sacks. Both better than Ford's two best seasons.

Ford's next best season? 4 sacks. Ansah's next best seasons? 7.5 and 8.

There's absolutely no question that Ansah is better. It's not even debatable.
I guess that'd depend on if you thought one was ascending and the other descending.
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I read Collins is expected to seek a contract of $46m over 5yrs, that's not bad.

If we trade Ford, what is our asking price?
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Ansah's two best seasons - 12 and 14.5 sacks. Both better than Ford's two best seasons.

Ford's next best season? 4 sacks. Ansah's next best seasons? 7.5 and 8.

There's absolutely no question that Ansah is better. It's not even debatable.
Right now? It absolutely is. Ford had a breakout season. Ansah didn't do shit.
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They also have a hell of a lot less talent.
Sure.

But you have more money to go pay and or get more players.

Thats what his next post about me not knowing football will be anyway. "it's a team sport you need a bunch of good players".
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And cutting Houston didn't even get them enough money to sign freaking Dee Ford.
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