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Old 03-06-2007, 09:50 PM  
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Graham signs with Denver
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_5370262

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Old 03-07-2007, 03:18 AM   #166
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Old 03-07-2007, 03:19 AM   #167
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You guys are lucky to have him...else you would really suck.
Sounds like you and that dirty scheme.

At least we're kept above "really suck" by a legitimate player.
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Old 03-07-2007, 06:00 AM   #168
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So you're saying that the list I provided is just average NFL talent? Give me a break...
What's so special about Javon Walker, Brandon Marshall, Daniel Graham or Scheffler?

Seriously? You act like they are the Rams of 1999.

Besides Walker, not one of them have put up superstar numbers ever.

Every ****ing year we hear this from Bronco fans. They throw a ton of money at some offensive player that's supposed to put them over the edge. Last year it was Walker, this year it's Graham.
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Old 03-07-2007, 07:13 AM   #169
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Yep. I've seen some write ups and charts of one of the Pats' playbook (what I was allowed to see) and it was incredibly complex. I was impressed.

The Pats offense is among the most complex in the NFL. Not a shocker given BB, etc., but I don't think most casual fans realize that our offense, just like our defense, is incredibly complex.

One downside is that it doesn't allow easy assimilation of WRs. Guys like Donald Hayes and Bethel Johnson just can't figure out WTF they're doing out there.
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Old 03-07-2007, 07:20 AM   #170
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The Pats offense is among the most complex in the NFL. Not a shocker given BB, etc., but I don't think most casual fans realize that our offense, just like our defense, is incredibly complex.

One downside is that it doesn't allow easy assimilation of WRs. Guys like Donald Hayes and Bethel Johnson just can't figure out WTF they're doing out there.
Not for nothing..but that offense is the same offense Vinny Testaverde had his best season in 1998..and he's one of the dumbest QB's in recent history.
It's not as complex as the west coast offense,or the Al Saunders/San Diego shifting crap..and Brady has that love bracelet on so he knows what plays to call.
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Old 03-07-2007, 07:45 AM   #171
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Not for nothing..but that offense is the same offense Vinny Testaverde had his best season in 1998..and he's one of the dumbest QB's in recent history.
It's not as complex as the west coast offense,or the Al Saunders/San Diego shifting crap..and Brady has that love bracelet on so he knows what plays to call.
what is a "love-bracelet?"
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Old 03-07-2007, 07:48 AM   #172
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what is a "love-bracelet?"
He has all the plays in a special bracelet on his wrist...it's on his left wrist
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Old 03-07-2007, 07:50 AM   #173
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"The Thomas Jefferson High School graduate and former CU star signed a $30 million deal with $15 million in guaranteed money."

Good lord...

When I read this quote, my initial reaction wasn't "That's a lot of money." My initial reaction was "he must be a smart SOB if he went to Thomas Jefferson High School," if it's the one I'm thinking of in Virginia. It's arguably the best academic high school in the country.

I wonder what he scored on the wonderlic...
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Old 03-07-2007, 08:17 AM   #174
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Old 03-07-2007, 08:25 AM   #175
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Old 03-07-2007, 08:28 AM   #176
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Not for nothing..but that offense is the same offense Vinny Testaverde had his best season in 1998..and he's one of the dumbest QB's in recent history.
It's not as complex as the west coast offense,or the Al Saunders/San Diego shifting crap..and Brady has that love bracelet on so he knows what plays to call.
Sure. Dumb QBs always last 20 years.

What you fail to distinguish is between pre-snap and post-snap adjustments. Post-snap are often harder, and the QB and WRs need to be on the same page. The Pats offense have probably about an average number of pre-snap and quite alot of post-snap adjustments.

I cannot begin to tell you how many times Patriots beat reporters have written so-and-so "is having trouble picking up the Patriots complex offensive scheme" in connection with some rookie or FA acquisition.

The Gruden shift, shift, and then shift some more, is a different type of offense entirely, also very complex. I'd say the super-shfiting offenses can be more complex, yes, but the Pats are above-average in overall complexity.
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Sure. Dumb QBs always last 20 years.


Gotta love Jets and Pats fans arguing over Vinny Testaverde. Hell, he was a Jet for a lot longer than he was a Patriot...
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Gotta love Jets and Pats fans arguing over Vinny Testaverde. Hell, he was a Jet for a lot longer than he was a Patriot...

I could give a rat's ass about Vinny. Seriously. A cup of coffee with the Pats doesn't exactly make him a Patriot. The argument is about Pats offensive playbook and it's complexity. I find it hard to believe that Vinny was that dumb, given his lengthy career.
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I could give a rat's ass about...
Off topic, this comment has always made me wonder what the hell it means. I've said it often, but what is the origin of this phrase?

I mean I've said it, but it's not like I carry around a bag of rat's asses to give each time I say it. Anyone know where this comment started?

I've also heard it used as "I could give..." or "I couldn't give..."

And, "rat's ass" has been replaced with "two shits" and other things from time to time.

Thoughts?
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