NFL Draft Eric Berry vs. Taylor Mays - Page 12

**RealSNR** · 09-14-2009, 06:08 PM

No, I'm not giving up on this season. This team isn't going to the playoffs. Plain and simple. But I'm still going to watch them and be encouraged by any progress I see. So if you want to bitch at me for starting a draft thread this early, go **** yourself in the eye with a sharp stick.

I've seen a couple Tennessee and USC games from last season. Taylor Mays looks MUCH better to me. He hits hard, wraps up, and is an athletic freak. Most boards I see though have Berry going before him. Granted, I'm not an NFL talent scout, but why is that?

Also, it would seem to me that this defense needs a big playmaker and that Taylor Mays is the perfect kind of athlete to fill that position versus a guy like Berry. Which one would be best for this team if we had an opportunity to draft either player this spring?

**doomy3** · 09-21-2009, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Ok if he comes in at 5'9 he won't be a top 15 pick, better?

Still think he would be top 15, but at least that isn't as outlandish as saying he wouldn't be a first rounder.

Mecca · 09-21-2009, 11:16 PM

The NFL gets extremely enamored by size and numbers as the season ends and workouts for the draft begin.

At 5'11 he's a bit undersized but it's ok, at 5'9 there are teams that would go yea to small.

KCrockaholic · 09-21-2009, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Ok if he comes in at 5'9 he won't be a top 15 pick, better?

Ok thats better. Pick 16 and pick 33 are biiig differences.

KCrockaholic · 09-21-2009, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

The NFL gets extremely enamored by size and numbers as the season ends and workouts for the draft begin.

At 5'11 he's a bit undersized but it's ok, at 5'9 there are teams that would go yea to small.

I have to say though. As far as the Chiefs are concerned. Mays fits KC better than Berry would. The 3-4 strives on big physical safeties. Mays would fit the 3-4 almost perfectly.

Mecca · 09-21-2009, 11:19 PM

Either way 2 inches would cost him million of dollars, Tennessee is usually pretty good about putting the correct size on their guys.

If he was playing at say Texas I'd know he was smaller than his size they listed Roy Williams at 6'3 then on draft day he magically became 6'1..or how Tech had Crabtree ridiculously over listed.

KCrockaholic · 09-21-2009, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Either way 2 inches would cost him million of dollars, Tennessee is usually pretty good about putting the correct size on their guys.

If he was playing at say Texas I'd know he was smaller than his size they listed Roy Williams at 6'3 then on draft day he magically became 6'1..or how Tech had Crabtree ridiculously over listed.

I thought that was funny as well. Crabtree was a midget compared to what he was listed as.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-21-2009, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Either way 2 inches would cost him million of dollars

It more than likely costs hundreds of millions of people millions of dollars.

salame · 09-22-2009, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Either way 2 inches would cost him million of dollars,

2 inches has cost me plenty

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-22-2009, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by salame

2 inches has cost me plenty

"Cost" or "denied"?

**Tribal Warfare** · 09-22-2009, 03:24 AM

If KC picks either of these guys it will come down to who plays smarter and makes the least mistakes.

eazyb81 · 09-22-2009, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

I have to say though. As far as the Chiefs are concerned. Mays fits KC better than Berry would. The 3-4 strives on big physical safeties. Mays would fit the 3-4 almost perfectly.

Not necessarily. Pats took Meriweather and Chung early and both are closer to Berry in size than Mays.

Chiefnj2 · 09-22-2009, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

I have to say though. As far as the Chiefs are concerned. Mays fits KC better than Berry would. The 3-4 strives on big physical safeties. Mays would fit the 3-4 almost perfectly.

Berry is listed right around the same size as Ed Reed and Polamalu

Coogs · 09-22-2009, 07:12 AM

http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/...ad.php?t=34159

Let's just say we do not get either of these two guys. Talk in this thread from nflcountdown is that the safety position may be one of the deepest positions in the draft in the early rounds. Are any of these other guys worthy of discussion (say for an early 2nd round pick), or is this merely a two horse race?

kepp · 09-22-2009, 07:15 AM

I watched a replay of UF/Tenn last night and Berry was EVERYWHERE. I'd rather we get him than Mays.

**Kyle DeLexus** · 09-22-2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/...ad.php?t=34159

Let's just say we do not get either of these two guys. Talk in this thread from nflcountdown is that the safety position may be one of the deepest positions in the draft in the early rounds. Are any of these other guys worthy of discussion (say for an early 2nd round pick), or is this merely a two horse race?

To me, it's a 2 horse race. Our safeties aren't good by any means but unless one of them is far and away a better prospect than the rest of the field we do have needs that are more glaring than safety. Berry and Mays are just that good of prospects that you get them when you can.

09-14-2009, 06:08 PM
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09-21-2009, 11:16 PM	#167
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-742950	The NFL gets extremely enamored by size and numbers as the season ends and workouts for the draft begin. At 5'11 he's a bit undersized but it's ok, at 5'9 there are teams that would go yea to small.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-742950	Either way 2 inches would cost him million of dollars, Tennessee is usually pretty good about putting the correct size on their guys. If he was playing at say Texas I'd know he was smaller than his size they listed Roy Williams at 6'3 then on draft day he magically became 6'1..or how Tech had Crabtree ridiculously over listed.
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Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $-2305651	http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/...ad.php?t=34159 Let's just say we do not get either of these two guys. Talk in this thread from nflcountdown is that the safety position may be one of the deepest positions in the draft in the early rounds. Are any of these other guys worthy of discussion (say for an early 2nd round pick), or is this merely a two horse race? Last edited by Coogs; 09-22-2009 at 07:22 AM..
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09-22-2009, 07:15 AM	#179
kepp MVP Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $3459212	I watched a replay of UF/Tenn last night and Berry was EVERYWHERE. I'd rather we get him than Mays.
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